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[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 17:52:44 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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On unix systems (in this case, FreeBSD), you will instead get a window asking you to select a profile, and it won't allow you to select the profile that's currently running.

I find this annoying, but I suppose they have their reasons... probably having something to do with the unix multi-user environment. Or something. I dunno.

[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 17:53:37 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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For reference to what I'm talking about:

http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html

[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 17:54:31 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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Strange, on MY unix system, it just opens a new window. :)

[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 17:54:58 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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And for the record, I've been using -remote since it was a Netscape command line option. :)

[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 17:57:46 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You've been using the command 'mozilla', not firefox, right?

And, 'mozilla', as installed on most unix systems, is really a shell script, right?

[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 18:00:58 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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No, I've been using "firefox". Then again, on Gentoo, this is a link to a shell script which does all this work for you. It's 387 lines long. Heh.


Which, unfortunately, I didn't realize until I went and looked just now.
Now if only FreeBSD Just Worked out of the box. You SURE you don't want to run Gentoo?

[#] Sat Sep 18 2004 18:02:19 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I'll stick with FreeBSD for now.

I'm curious about Gentoo, but I'm okay with FreeBSD. It's obviously not a great port someone has done.

Speaking of which, is there a port for Citadel yet?

[#] Sun Sep 19 2004 03:19:31 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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No, there isn't, because I've been too busy attempting to have a life, and actually having some success.

[#] Sun Sep 19 2004 05:09:56 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Cool!

[#] Sun Sep 19 2004 05:31:38 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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The script I created yesterday for running Firefox no longer works after having updated to 0.9.3.

But, at least I'm finally running Firefox 0.9.3... although I'd rather be running 0.10.

[#] Sun Sep 19 2004 10:15:01 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Oh, well, while that topic is going on here, I may as well point out that, at least on the FreeBSD port, Firefox doesn't seem to properly support the -remote command line argument anymore.

[#] Mon Oct 18 2004 15:26:31 EDT from voisine @ Uncensored

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You'd probably be interested in Objective-C. It's what GNUStep and OS X Cocoa Applications are built with. It's C with a single syntactic addition to support objects. (the syntax was taken from small-talk). Objective-C support is already built into your gcc compiler. :)

[#] Mon Oct 18 2004 15:29:56 EDT from voisine @ Uncensored

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Holly crap, I realized I just replied to a message about C++ vs. smalltalk from back in February. I'm new here.

[#] Mon Oct 18 2004 15:41:32 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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That's ok, objective-c r00lez.

[#] Mon Oct 18 2004 15:54:01 EDT from Chickenhead @ Uncensored

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I've always wanted to learn Obj-C. One of these days I'll actually get
around to it...

[#] Mon Oct 18 2004 16:14:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The transformation of Apple into "NeXT #2" has rekindled interest in Objective-C.

Oh, and welcome to Uncensored. :)

[#] Mon Oct 18 2004 17:51:24 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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My only complaint about Objective C was the pain in the ass of managing memory.. as everything, absolutely everything has to be freed, you cannot just bail out of a method without stopping to free something or other. This is how it was when I was doing NeXTSTEP full-time. But even then they made it easier by intelligently designing classes eg list and array classes that provide a method that frees all the contained objects before freeing itself. But I know that there were some improvements that were taking shape just as I was moving away from it, eg memory allocation zones, and, for graphical apps, a simple solution: A list upon which you can toss objects.. and when the event handler is done handling the event, it freed everything on that list. So for objects that don't need to stick around past the handling of one event, just toss them on when they're created and no need to worry about freeing them.

[#] Tue Oct 19 2004 12:43:49 EDT from georbit @ Haven BBS

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You mean Objective-C doesn't have destructors??? That's one of the best things about C++.

[#] Tue Oct 19 2004 18:50:28 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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and os/2 rulez too, so feel free to say nice things about that too. :-)

[#] Wed Oct 20 2004 12:42:56 EDT from Oppie Taylor @ Uncensored

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Is OS/2 still ran today in the world?

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