didn't google recently release something similar with less problems for comercial use?
Bart: not that I'm aware of.
Ford: The Windows client GUI is bare bones but functional. The protocol however is WAAY faster than anything else I've tried for Linux, including: straight X11, X11 over SSH with compression, X11+LBX, VNC, and using RDP via a Windows host running Linux in a Virtualbox. (I haven't thoroughly investigated Virtualbox's built-in RDP server.)
I've been meaning to try NX for a long time now, but never seem to get around to it.
The issue with X11 is the latency. There are a lot of round trips in the protocol. I've been led to believe that NX has zero unnecessary round trips.
I've been meaning to try NX for a long time now, but never seem to get
around to it.
With CentOS it's as simple as, yum install freenx, download and install the client, and paste the private key from the server to the client. (Yes, you read that right, I said paste the *private* key.)
The private key thing has always kept me from using NX. It's great and much more secure - but since I could connect from any of 60 different locations, it's a real pain in the ass; and I haven't found a way to get around it (granted, I haven't tried lately).
vnc works, and everything else (X basically) just doesn't.
I have a really tiny pipe from my dev box in virginia to my desktop in new york and for years I was never able to run anything graphical on my machine because all my X, x+lbx and all that just didn't cut it.
But then I tried x11vnc, and the holy grail had arrived. It's not great, but it's usable, I was finally able to actually debug something ON my sun machine instead of running it locally in cygwin and hoping for the best when I built on sun.
sshh is really bad for speed and latency, but it does function, xeyes runs and everything, but copying an mp3 is painful.
I must remember to try vnc.
Well, it's the same key for all 60 locations. You can write it on a napkin or something and pass it around... or tattoo it on your forearm... oh wait it's a private key. I don't like the fact that it's the same key for all 60 locations, it's a slight misuse of public key crypto. But I think this can be worked around by editing .authorized_keys on the ~nx on the server. I haven't bothered because the private key is not the final authentication token by default. You still have to give your password.
So when you're going in from a new client, first you have to ssh in, grab the key from /etc, and then paste it into that text box on the windows client. After that, you're good to go.
Ford: NX is basically VNC done better. The ssh stuff is integrated already and you don't have to do anything special with manually tunneling vnc over ssh. Also, NX works like "screen", with suspend and resume, and it supports XRandR (albeit in a limited fashion) so you can always get a desktop resolution that fits whatever client you happen to be using at the moment. VNC utterly lacks customizable resolutions, from everything I've seen so far.
I'll add that to my list of things to check out.
Mo Sep 14 2009 14:52:43 EDT von Ford II @ UncensoredThat's another thing I've always wanted, a graphical version of screen. It sucks so much that you can't pull an X application from one machine to another while still running.
I'll add that to my list of things to check out.
go to sun*cough*oracle and by some sunrays. You can move your X-session arround with your chipcard.
so... here we have some heuristica to find countermeasure for...
He then clarified that Sun is going to help Oracle "become a great systems company," not just a hardware or software company. He wants Oracle to be the like the *old* IBM (hmm ... that would be the IBM everyone loved to hate?).
"Not Lou Gerstner's IBM or Sam Palmisano's, but when IBM was the dominant software company in the world and translated that to being the dominant systems company." Ellison called that IBM "the greatest company on Earth."
Interesting times ahead, it seems.
Read more: http://tinyurl.com/km9pzy
SUN ain't no IBM.
(And I'm really wanting to use the word "synergy" here but let's leave the corporate doublespeak for another day.)
we've been trying for years to migrate certain of our databases from oracle to mysql. third party etl tools just can't touch oracle's remote materialized views at this point, at least in terms of ease of use. (oracle's stuff is of the "set it up and it just works" variety; informatica is like "set it up and it might eventually Just Work, after 5 years, if your developers are super genius.)
I've noticed over the past 2 years the curiously large number of hardware failures we have with our sun equipment. Be they cpus that die or machines sieze up for no reason, or io performance coming to a crawl when you replace an EMC storage array card with a shiney new one from sun. Yes, sun equipment in sun equipment makes sun equipment perform badly.
So I asked my bloomberg buddy who has lots of years with sun and he says that yea, that basically sounds right.
Anybody else have experience like this with sun?
I always thought they were rock solid.
Generally the only time I've seen Sun equipment misbehave is when you get *out* of spec and try going cowboy on it. Aside from that it tends to be "turn it on, run it for a decade" type of stuff.