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[#] Thu Oct 19 2006 14:38:12 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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That only almost crashed a tree on my car, otherwise the building didn't
even notice. :>

[#] Thu Oct 19 2006 18:59:40 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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Yes, but I know how to deal with tornadoes: Don't live near a trailer park, and don't hire rednecks...

[#] Wed Nov 08 2006 09:52:06 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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LOL @ IO, and WTF @ Freakdog.
IBM is seriously doing that? What the bleeding fuck??? I do not get this system at all. What if you never use the other processors. they're sitting where IBM can't get them and also doesn't have money in exchange for them. Bad idea IMNSHO.

[#] Thu Nov 09 2006 13:14:13 EST from isoroku @ Uncensored

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the8088er:O
Here is a thing to consider. The way IBM builds processor cards on some of these systems, there will be 2 - 4 processors on the card anyway (more on the big systems) and it is simipler to have just one card type with, for example, 4 processors on it. The customer only currently has need for 2 processor, so that is all he needs to pay for. Then if he move more workload to the system or wants more logical partitions on the system, he can pay a little more money to activate the 2 processors that already exist in his system.
There is much less down time than there would be to install a new processor card in the system.

[#] Thu Nov 09 2006 18:13:50 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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what happens when someone other than IBM figures out how to activate those two processors?

[#] Thu Nov 09 2006 18:45:24 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Thu 09 Nov 2006 06:13:50 PM EST from the8088er@uncnsrd (Uncensored)

what happens when someone other than IBM figures out how to activate those two processors?

Well, I suppose that the first time you need service/support, and they notice that this has happened, they'll be in trouble.

However, it's a pretty safe bet that any company that's already ponying up the money for that kind of hardware isnt' about to try to cheat IBM out of their money. 



[#] Thu Nov 09 2006 18:45:58 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Everyone knows that manufacturers set the feature list of different models, and the price of different models, on the basis of market position and not necessarily on the basis of how much the product cost them to make. So it's not so odd, on such an expensive machine, that the cost of the processors is small enough to include them even if they are never used or paid for. But I think that even though people know this, they don't like to be reminded of it.

[#] Thu Nov 09 2006 22:08:05 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'm sure that in order to purchase (or lease) the equipment, and the service contract that comes with it, you have to sign a contract that forbids unauthorized activation of "on demand" hardware.

[#] Thu Nov 09 2006 22:53:16 EST from isoroku @ Uncensored

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I know the guys who enforce that stuff and know that they go through a lot to ensure you can't active it without IBM's knowledge. But that is all I know, as it is kept a tight secret for obvious reasons.

[#] Fri Nov 10 2006 08:16:46 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Still quite interesting. What would be cool is if I have a server with 4 processors of which 2 are active. One fails. Will a standby processor activate to replace it? That would be convenient.

[#] Fri Nov 10 2006 08:47:58 EST from isoroku @ Uncensored

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I think it might actually work like that. Not sure, though.

[#] Fri Nov 10 2006 09:21:52 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'm not sure what the iSeries does, but the mainframes (now zSeries) have done that for years.

[#] Fri Nov 10 2006 09:39:13 EST from isoroku @ Uncensored

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iSeries (System i) and pSeries (AIX/ System p) work pretty much the same way as the hardware and low level firmware is now all the same.

[#] Fri Nov 10 2006 10:24:12 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Yes...the unused processors can (and I think are) activated in such a case.

[#] Fri Nov 10 2006 16:39:22 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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That makes sense then Doesn't seem like such a waste.

[#] Tue Nov 28 2006 15:18:35 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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Re: Unused CPUs on processor card.

There is also a cost benefit from a manufacturing perspective. Instead of manufacturing three processor cards for 1 CPU, 2 CPUs, and 4 CPUs, you only have to build one card with 4 CPUs. That saves money on hardware design (schematics, PCB layout, etc) and testing, manufacturing time, space, equipment, etc, and general operations management of multiple parts.
Spell

[#] Fri Dec 22 2006 15:23:48 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Heh.

I happened to be reading the Wikipedia entry about the Year 2038 problem [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem ].

I really loved the dryness of this statement:

"Using a (signed) 64-bit value introduces a new wraparound date in about 290 billion years, on Sunday, December 4, 292,277,026,596. However, this problem is not widely regarded as a pressing issue."

[#] Fri Dec 22 2006 15:25:27 EST from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Though I betcha they'll be looking for COBOL programmers to deal with that too.

[#] Fri Dec 22 2006 15:27:00 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's only a matter of time before COBOL becomes the preferred programming language to use on modern operating systems.

[#] Sat Dec 23 2006 12:43:41 EST from Magus @ Uncensored

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*laugh* I was just reading that the other day, too.

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