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[#] Thu Jun 17 2010 05:36:52 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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That is some impressive hardware.  I might need to keep those guys in mind.

[#] Thu Jun 17 2010 11:08:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Actually, the idea of building cheap-and-sleazy servers using the Atom CPU is being floated by a number of different manufacturers. Intel doesn't really want it to happen because it cannibalizes their high-end server chip sales.

That's just what a lot of people need, though. I've got a Dell PowerEdge 2650 sucking down power in my basement 24 hours a day. Do I need all that power all the time? Of course not. I would welcome a box that sips power, especially during the 99% of the day when it's idle.

[#] Thu Jun 17 2010 22:18:44 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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My understanding was that Intel was requiring contracts from Atom OEM's that had some pretty specific stipulations about what sort of laptops could be built with them.

[#] Fri Jun 18 2010 07:59:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's correct -- there are limits on the physical dimensions of the display, for example. They seem pretty intent on making sure the Atom is only used in mobile devices. I'm guessing they'll make exceptions for vendors like Sea Micro if they feel that the vendor would otherwise go with ARM for their application ... either that or Sea Micro is just buying the chips without the same kind of discounts that Dell and HP are getting.

Now that I think about it, there's really no reason why a home server needs to be x86-based. Most families just need them to be file servers and Internet gateways, which will run just fine on ARM. Even in a highly automated home like mine which adds things like X-10 and Asterisk, there's nothing that won't run on ARM with a mere recompile.

Hmm. ARM or Atom CPU, plus disks that spin down when not in use ... I'd really like that.

[#] Sat Jun 19 2010 12:58:26 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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according to the article if I remember right, they did get the OK from intel but there was some stipulation, and they said their box could also be run on ARM chips.

[#] Sun Jun 20 2010 06:05:47 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea, always the same... unless you put the pressure of alternating solution, the big won't move...

[#] Sun Jun 20 2010 21:05:22 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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that's the american way, and suck it may, but it sucks less than everything else.

[#] Sun Jun 20 2010 23:20:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Now that I think about it a little more, there's really no reason why you couldn't build a "cheap, low-power home server" using a netbook connected to one or more USB disks configured to spin down when not in use. Some of us need a few extra components -- my home server, for example, requires two Ethernet ports, an FXO card, and an external SCSI interface to connect a tape drive -- but I suspect most homes would only require a server that provides an Internet gateway and a file server.

As a bonus, the fact that all netbooks have WiFi interfaces in them means that it could also act as a wireless access point.

Netgear and Linksys(Cisco) ought to take advantage of their current positions in the "home router" market and start expanding that device's role.

[#] Mon Jun 21 2010 02:35:47 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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my new netcologne router comes with usb-plugs and support for harddisks, so you can upgrade it to a dsk-station...

[#] Mon Jun 21 2010 16:38:40 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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I think Cisco already makes a home-router with USB ports specifically designed for sharing disks and printers, too.

[#] Tue Jun 22 2010 08:26:41 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Now that I think about it a little more, there's really no reason why

you couldn't build a "cheap, low-power home server" using a netbook

Or with an off the shelf wifi router (one with the storage port option) that's been reflashed with Linux.

[#] Wed Jun 23 2010 22:28:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yeah, that too, if you can get one with enough memory.

[#] Tue Jun 29 2010 23:52:35 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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What did I just do?

Somebody tried to give me, earlier today, the physically largest laser printer I think I can fit in the back of my SUV without cutting either the car or the printer, and for some reason I took the thing.

It was after I singlehandededly moved it into my room that I looked up the specs on the HP website. It's only 122 lbs. 32 ppm, duplexing, monochrome. 150k page per month duty cycle. 20k pages per toner cartridge, and mine is 80% full.

Not a bad acquisition for someone who runs through reams of paper like water.

My excitement in this acquisition was quickly crushed when I attempted to connect the said device to my FreeBSD workstation and set it up under CUPS. It turns out the device uses an HP proprietary parallel connector. I'm not sure why; they had enough space on the back of this thing to put about 50 normal parallel ports and a coffee maker. The "HP" connector is about 7/8" wide, and has a latching attachment. Looks kind of like a regular Centronics cable that's shrunk down.

Hitting eBay for one, I couldn't even find one for sale. Presumably I don't know what to search for. I'm sure this cable has an actual name.

The printer is a LaserJet 8150N. "Oh it's an N. It has networking! No need for parallel!" I think quietly to myself. Nope. Someone's robbed the JetDirect card.

It may be a totally moot point anyway since I did order a JetDirect for it, but does anyone know the name of the cable or happen to have one laying around?

[#] Wed Jun 30 2010 05:48:09 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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sounds like you could now print enough to totaly change the look of your rooms once a week...

[#] Wed Jun 30 2010 11:09:36 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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the8088er: Re: HP 8150 N printer.

I pulled up the user-guide on HP's web site and it says the interface conforms to IEEE-1284. The guide lists the following cables:

3 meter, part # C2946A
10 meter, part # C2947A

Here's the URL if you'd like to download it: 58.pdf

And the info about the cables is on page 48.
HP Binder

[#] Wed Jun 30 2010 11:25:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The smaller connector is called a "mini centronics" aka IEEE-1284C. HP used it for a little while before USB became the dominant interface for local peripherals.

I would agree that the JetDirect card is a better option. Ethernet uber alles.

[#] Fri Jul 02 2010 13:35:48 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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ethernet is obviously a better choice for any connectivity because then anything can become world-direct addressble (come ipv6 yada yada)
So why is usb so proliferate.
If everything ran on ethernet, and then wifi chips got cheap, installing something would be as simple as getting it within range of your wireless router...

[#] Fri Jul 02 2010 17:08:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's pretty much exactly what the whole zeroconf/rendezvous thing is all about. It's a good idea and everything ought to use it.

Some implementations are better than others. When we got our color laser printer, Mac OS X required a bizarre series of incantations and driver installs, but Ubuntu just said "hey, I see this HP printer on your network, I know what model it is and what driver it uses, do you want me to set it up for you?" and we were printing in about 30 seconds.

[#] Sun Jul 04 2010 16:46:04 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Okay, got a JetDirect card from an IRC friend, $20 shipped.

Works great.

Thank you guys for helping me track down the proper cable. I will save that info for future reference :)

[#] Sun Jul 04 2010 19:02:55 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I've still got an old-skool Ethernet-to-parallel (three parallel ports, actually) JetDirect. Works fine, but I'll probably never be able to upgrade it to support IPv6.

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