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[#] Wed Mar 03 2010 10:28:27 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Apple has been screwing up lately. And this patent thing feels like another screw-up. But really, what choice do they have? The patent system is a mess.. and other companies have gone up against Apple in defending their patents and are going to continue doing that. Apple has to defend their patents and have a portfolio of patents so that they can hold those patents over the heads of the other guys, when the other guys hold their patents over Apples head.
It is idiotic but I can't really blame Apple on this one. That said, it is annoying because I do want multitouch on Android.

[#] Wed Mar 03 2010 11:32:06 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I don't see how Apple can have a patent on multitouch, when a university came up with the idea.

So if Apple has a patent on the idea of using multitouch on a phone, that's crap. That's almost like patenting the idea of using a pencil as a wedge.

I get that people should defend patents... I'm suggesting Apple's patents in this area are rubbish.

[#] Wed Mar 03 2010 11:40:30 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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I haven't seen the actual list of patents they are trying to defend. It is probably stupid. But I still don't blame Apple for this, it is just the way the game is played these days, Apple was not the first and they won't be the last. If Apple had not patented that technology, then someone else would have patented it and sued Apple, thus hurting the market for the iPhone etc.
Let's say Apple didn't patent the key technologies in the iPhone.. someone else could have then patented them, and without doing any of the work to develop a product, could have then prevented Apple from introducing their product or shaken them down for a lot of money and or generated tons of bad publicity surrounding the release of the product. Plenty of Apples competitors would have enjoyed doing that. Apple has no choice but to secure as many patents as possible, nor do any other technology companies...

[#] Wed Mar 03 2010 14:02:57 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Yeah, as much as trivial patents suck - and we have companies filing patents for completely obvious things thats are really just combinations of multiple industry-standard techniques - patent applications look great on a resume, so go for it.

[#] Wed Mar 03 2010 16:08:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's effectively an arms race.

[#] Wed Mar 03 2010 16:20:11 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Where the customer loses.

Of course, I am likely to have a patent in my name (for all the good it'll do me) soon. It might be a resume-builder, and it might be 'good for business', but some of these patents are lousy for consumers.

I know they're supposed to protect the people who come up with original stuff, to give them a chance to recoup money for the time and effort in creating something nice that they've brought into the world. That's really nice and all that.

But something has happened in the world, to make patents somewhat outmoded for certain kinds of things. We probably need some form of patent reform to keep consumers from getting screwed.

[#] Thu Mar 04 2010 08:17:02 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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they got the multitouch technology by aquiring fingerwords 5 years ago or so.

the first real cool device you can buy from them is the new apple touch mouse.

i'll buy a keyboard if they make one again.



[#] Thu Mar 04 2010 10:11:20 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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a multi-touch based USB keyboard would be badass on ANY system.

just think of the possibilities!!!



[#] Thu Mar 04 2010 10:14:38 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Do Mär 04 2010 10:11:20 EST von skpacman @ Uncensored

a multi-touch based USB keyboard would be badass on ANY system.

just think of the possibilities!!!

don't need to thing of the possibilities. have one of those:

http://www.fingerworks.com/

it broke down 5 years ago just after apple purchased & closed the company.



[#] Thu Mar 04 2010 18:17:22 EST from cellofellow @ Uncensored

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I'd love to see a laptop with a normal (or multitouch, doesn't matter) folding screen, and instead of a keyboard and touchpad on the main body, a multitouch screen for the keyboard and touchpad, or just whatever else you could possibly want. I know
the technology exists to do this, I just haven't seen anyone actually do it yet.

[#] Thu Mar 04 2010 18:23:51 EST from cellofellow @ Uncensored

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My laptop died yesterday. It spontaneously decided not to resume from suspend, and now when I start it the indicator lights flash briefly as they always do, and then nothing. The only thing running is the CPU fan and the power indicator light, and
the Fn key that turns on and off the indicator lights still works. I think my motherboard is dead.

It's a Gateway MT3423, bought it in fall of 2007, so 2 1/2 years ago. Anyone know any way I can more thoroughly investigate the laptop to see if my motherboard is really dead? or do I just need to salvage it for parts and find a new laptop?

Right now I've removed the hard drive and put it in another laptop, an old Compaq Presario with a Pentium III and 184MB of RAM. Even Lubuntu is too much for this thing. When swapping out the hard drives, broke the connection between the touchpad and
motherboard in the old Compaq, so now I'm getting really friendly with keystrokes and when forced to using my USB mouse.

[#] Fri Mar 05 2010 10:19:47 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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cellofellow: My old laptop, an IBM ThinkPad 360PE, would sometimes not resume after suspend, either. I had to reset the system using the reset button on the bottom of the laptop. You might want to check to see if your system has a reset switch and try that.
Spell

[#] Fri Mar 05 2010 14:40:09 EST from cellofellow @ Uncensored

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It's not specifically a problem with suspend. I've had it hang on resume once or twice before and normally just shutting it down hard and bringing it back up works. Only this time, it doesn't come back up at all. No BIOS POST, nothing. Really frustrating.



[#] Sat Mar 06 2010 23:29:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Multi touch feels like something that's bound to get caught up in all sorts of ugly patent litigation. Everyone who's doing it right now claims to have invented it first.

[#] Sun Mar 07 2010 18:49:28 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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It's pretty funny everyone claims to have invented it too. Those things
have been researched since the 80s, no way a new idea, just a point
where technology felt the need for change, beutification,
naturalization, and GIMICKS!

http://www.billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html

[#] Tue Mar 09 2010 13:36:43 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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eMachines is building it standard into their netbooks' touchpad for gesture purposes.

I tried one out over the weekend. It's actually quite addicting once you get the hang of it.



[#] Tue Mar 09 2010 14:09:20 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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A multitouch touch screen on a netbook would be cool. But I wish they would ditch the teeny tiny touchpads and get a touchpoint in there. A touchpoint on a netbook makes so much sense. I really want a netbook and I am definitely going to get one in the next month or two. It is sad that I am going to have to settle for a touchpad.. one with a touchpoint will probably come out 10 minutes after I buy...

[#] Tue Mar 09 2010 14:58:24 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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I agree, a trackpoint on a netbook would be very nice, and I don't even
like the things. Best notebook input device I've ever had was an old
black and white mac laptop I got second hand, that thing had a
trackball, and it's certainly all been downhill from there.

[#] Tue Mar 09 2010 19:47:52 EST from cellofellow @ Uncensored

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Trackballs are awesome for laptops indeed. I had an old Mac PowerBook once upon a time (like 15-10yrs ago) and it had the trackball. Didn't appreciate it for what it was then, as I was a young kid and simply envied all the people with newer laptops that had touchpads.

Still, I do agree a trackpoint, which is minimal in size and requires the least motion from the keyboard to access, is perfect for a netbook. I'm surprised Lenovo, with the ThinkPad line which is famous for trackpoints (among other things) hasn't put trackpoints in the IdeaPad line of netbooks. Ah, well.



[#] Wed Mar 10 2010 07:53:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea trackpoints are excelent for throwing focus from one window to another..

but wait.. I usualy just use all apps fullscreen on my netbook.



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