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[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 08:06:49 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I guess things arent like the good old days.

[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 08:13:23 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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okay, so I haven't built a machine in a long time.
half the parts showed up yestrday.
the motheboard has 3 fan jacks on it.
one for cpu two for system
what am I supposed to hook the system fans up to.
As in where do I put them, are they supposed to be big 5 inch case fans or do they sit on top of the heatsinks on the baord of which there is only one.

and being as im so out of it.
what is north side south side front side bus, where are they, do they get hot and require separate cooling?

[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 09:21:35 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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Wed Aug 26 2009 08:13:23 AM EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored
okay, so I haven't built a machine in a long time.
half the parts showed up yestrday.
the motheboard has 3 fan jacks on it.
one for cpu two for system
what am I supposed to hook the system fans up to.
As in where do I put them, are they supposed to be big 5 inch case fans or do they sit on top of the heatsinks on the baord of which there is only one.

and being as im so out of it.
what is north side south side front side bus, where are they, do they get hot and require separate cooling?


North Bridge is what talks to your memory (assuming you dont have tri-channel), the ram itself might need cooling if it's high-performance but it's not required. Most likely, the other 2 connections are case fans. What model motherboard is it?

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[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 10:32:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It is not worth it....unless you like messing around with things.  I know


Hack value is a totally legitimate reason, even if a bit impractical.

[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 10:33:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I guess things arent like the good old days.

Well, you know what they say -- the good old days aren't what they used to be.

[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 14:33:51 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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p45 neo3 or p43 neo3 Not sure which
Does that mean anything to you?

[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 15:08:47 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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Wed Aug 26 2009 02:33:51 PM EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored
p45 neo3 or p43 neo3 Not sure which
Does that mean anything to you?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130180

That one??

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"When the rich wage war,
it's the poor that die..."
- Linkin Park "Hands Held High"



[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 16:31:18 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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Wed Aug 26 2009 04:21:36 PM EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

*drool* nice motherboard..

anyways...  yes.. i'd say one connection goes to cpu fan and other two are for case fans. It has the same fan connections as my motherboard which is one cpu fan, one rear case fan and one side case fan.

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The Kings Photography
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"When the rich wage war,
it's the poor that die..."
- Linkin Park "Hands Held High"



[#] Wed Aug 26 2009 20:46:25 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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YEah, I have this nice case I was saving to set this all up in.
I put the powersupply in, then went to put the motherboard in, and noticed that it don't fit.
Yea, apparently it's a miniatx case. Silly me.
So the only other case I have doesn't have a hole in the side. Maybe I'll make one.
So air is supposed to go IN the side or out? If it goes out, and it goes out the power supply, where's the intake supposed to be?

[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 01:40:40 EDT from Harbard @ Uncensored

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I don't want to advertise for anyone but....

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=5201966&sku=B69-0121&SRCCODE=WEM2010BY&cm_mmc=Email-_-Main-_-WEM2010_-components

This is a hell of a deal.  quad core, terabyte SATA drive.  The only downside seems to be the power supply.  Seems kinda small to me.

 

 



[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 07:11:16 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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2 gig of memory doesn't buy you a ticket on the bus anymore. its a decnt deal but like all the other deals I found, you can't get a great machine fro a deal.

[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 07:11:41 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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and I read that linux does do well on asus boards.

[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 08:06:20 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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if somebody is in boston today...

http://windows7sins.org/



[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 08:27:07 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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Wed Aug 26 2009 08:46:25 PM EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored
YEah, I have this nice case I was saving to set this all up in.
I put the powersupply in, then went to put the motherboard in, and noticed that it don't fit.
Yea, apparently it's a miniatx case. Silly me.
So the only other case I have doesn't have a hole in the side. Maybe I'll make one.
So air is supposed to go IN the side or out? If it goes out, and it goes out the power supply, where's the intake supposed to be?

side= intake, back=out

any others (like i've seen have 4-5 fan ports) can be ins or outs depending on their position. like a front-panel fan should be an intake to cool your PCI slots. a bottom-rear pci controlled fan should be an out to pull hot air away from your PCI.   really, the air flow works best going from front panel of tower to back panel of tower. unless you're liquid cooling then it doesnt really matter.

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"When the rich wage war,
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- Linkin Park "Hands Held High"



[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 16:21:27 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Front to back it is.

The windows7sins... while the large picture is admirable, like all propaganda, the details themselves are a little sketchy.
Just once I'd like to see somebody try and evangelicise without becoming militant and bending all sorts of examples just to PROVE that they are right.
Don't even go halfway, go 25% of the way.
a few reasonable arguments are more likely to sway intelligent people than a lot of really contrived arguments.

Ford (I know, I know, it's not about smart people) ][

[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 16:40:48 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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o.0 huh?



[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 22:44:28 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Absolutely. 2gig is enough for a single-OS machine, just barely enough for a virtualized setup with one host and one guest, as long as the words "Vista" and "Windows 7" are NOT uttered in the same sentence. Strictly Windows XP. And even then, 2 gig is just the bare minimum and your machine will start thrashing on occasion if you allocate a healthy amount of RAM to the guest.

[#] Thu Aug 27 2009 22:44:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ford: the FSF's propaganda will always fail because they assume that the whole world would care about "software freedom" as much as Richard Stallman does, if only they knew about it. Relatively few people care about the undisputable fact that Microsoft and its products are evil. You have to give them practical reasons to switch; philosophical reasons are too cerebral.

[#] Fri Aug 28 2009 12:22:54 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I have 2 gig in my main desktop/dev machine and it's maxed out and it sucks.
But I can run 2 and sometimes 3 small vms and the machine is still usable.
I need one to run w2k just big enough to run vpn software and remote desktop, so that one's pretty small. I have another one that I run xp in so that I can run flash 9&10 programs, and they can both run side by side with no problem.
2 gig really is hindering if you want to run eclipse at the same time though.

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