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[#] Tue Jan 27 2009 17:10:46 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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But what if I *want* 1000 free hours of AOL?

[#] Tue Jan 27 2009 19:44:32 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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First they gave up making money on the printers and decided they'll make all their money on the ink. But now people just throw these piece of crap printers away either when they first see the cost of relacement ink, or after they've bought their first set of replacement cartridges and had them dry out or fail to work... So now the printer manufacturers make their money installing adware on your computer.

Personally I refuse to be ripped off by inkjets anymore. I have a tiny LaserJet 1012.. yes it is black and white, yes the toner is overpriced.. but it works and has worked for years. I ask it to print and it prints.

Now I see companies selling color lasers for really low prices, like $300-500.. and I have been tempted by them.. because I would like color. But then upon closer inspection, they want hundreds of dollars for relacement toner cartridges.
So no.

[#] Tue Jan 27 2009 22:15:33 EST from Animal @ Uncensored

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pssh.... I just email it to my office and print it on the lab printer. :)

[#] Tue Jan 27 2009 22:21:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's right, they've brought the inkjet pricing model to color laser printers now. It's a good deal when someone else is paying for the consumables -- my wife has one that she uses to print newsletters for a nonprofit org that she's part of. A full set of cartridges will indeed set you back a hefty three-figure sum.

Black-and-white laser printers are still the way to go. I've got an old HP LaserJet 5 that still prints beautifully, even with the $18 refurb toner cartridge that I put in it a few months ago.

Hmrrmph. And now I'm trying to look up the name of the place that I got that really good remanufactured cartridge from, and I can't find it.

[#] Thu Jan 29 2009 23:37:52 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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Just out of curiousity, how well can those colour laser printers copy/print money?


[#] Fri Jan 30 2009 09:29:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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They will print beautiful reproductions of money, along with a trackable watermark that identifies who printed it. (Read for more details.)

[#] Fri Feb 06 2009 17:12:18 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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getting directions from google maps it no longer suggests you swim across the atlantic.

[#] Fri Feb 06 2009 17:49:59 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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mario_grgic writes "Recently announced Google Earth version 5.0
adds interesting new features like images of ocean floors and some
detailed images of Mars. But it also brings another unwelcome change

for Mac OS X users. Google Software update daemon is installed when
the application is launched for the first time. The user is greeted
with an uninformative message that does not really explain what is
about to happen. After the user accepts, Google Update Agent is
downloaded and installed. It updates all Google applications and not

just Google Earth. Also, it runs on an unchangeable schedule of its
own (instead of, say, only when one of Google's apps is launched),
consuming system resources. Worst of all it can not be simply
removed, since it is downloaded and installed again once Google Earth

is launched. Users really
have only two choices: live with it, or
uninstall all Google apps. There's a discussion about the updater in

this Google Group, including details of a way to disable it (not for

the faint of heart). So fellow Slashdotters, has Google crossed the


Ford (I know I know, you happily welcome your new google overlords. :-) ][

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 01:54:36 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Jan 30 2009 9:29am from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
They will print beautiful reproductions of money, along with a
trackable watermark that identifies who printed it. (Read for more details.)

When i was using my brother printer I was trying to determine if black toner that was getting laid over the page was a problem with the cartridge or drum unit, and the cartridges are dumb and have no chip, so I swapped the yellow and black cartridges for a little test since they were right next to each other. On everything I printed in this setup black dots were everywhere in strange patterns and I couldn't figure it out. (But not black toner, so it was the imaging unit)... anyway now I know that this is the cause of it.

Scary shit.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 06:55:54 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You have a brother?  Do you also have a sister?

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 09:01:09 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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Yeah, hook us up, but only if she can swap print cartridges too. I mean, that's what I really look for in a woman anyway.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 11:24:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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"I have a brother?"


But you have a siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiister..."

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 12:38:56 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Your coments only prove that in addition to being a crappy printer, it was also retardedly named :-P

Seriously though, now that I know these damn yellow dots are there they really bother me. If I print on high brightness paper they're really obvious.
I wonder what would happen if you printed on blue paper.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 17:26:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Brother was a respected brand in typewriters and typewriter ribbons many years ago. They've moved on to printers now, but they're not anyone special.

As far as I know, nearly all color laser printers have the Gestapo Dots feature.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 19:55:58 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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Yes, because we can't buy printers with cash or with pre-paid credit cards. How silly.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 20:47:08 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Well it isn't even the Brother printer that I use anymore. It's a (much more expensive) Konica. Once source of irritation for me is that the brother was actually better at hiding the dots.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 22:58:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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They don't necessarily have to trace the dots back to the purchase of the printer. They can simply match up your "incriminating" pages with other things you've printed, and show that they came from the same printer. It's just one element of a larger set of forensics that they might use to prosecute a case.

Think of it as the modern equivalent of what they used to do with pages from a manual typewriter, where they'd look at little idiosyncrasies of the characters and be able to match it up to the suspect's typewriter.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 23:06:07 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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It's just more obsurdity, criminals would just get someone to hack out the firmware or driver to omitt the dots. Heck, I saw a crack that removes the dollar recognition in photoshop cs4 just last week. I think it's floating around usenet.

[#] Sun Feb 08 2009 08:04:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's even worse -- "printed by a color laser printer that has had its tracking dots disabled" is even more incriminating.

After all, if you're not breaking the law, you have nothing to hide; isn't that right, citizen?

[#] Mon Feb 09 2009 16:10:35 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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it's like the guy who burned off his fingerprints.
Of course as long as everybody burns off their fingerprints it does work.

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