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[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 12:38:56 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Your coments only prove that in addition to being a crappy printer, it was also retardedly named :-P

Seriously though, now that I know these damn yellow dots are there they really bother me. If I print on high brightness paper they're really obvious.
I wonder what would happen if you printed on blue paper.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 17:26:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Brother was a respected brand in typewriters and typewriter ribbons many years ago. They've moved on to printers now, but they're not anyone special.

As far as I know, nearly all color laser printers have the Gestapo Dots feature.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 19:55:58 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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Yes, because we can't buy printers with cash or with pre-paid credit cards. How silly.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 20:47:08 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Well it isn't even the Brother printer that I use anymore. It's a (much more expensive) Konica. Once source of irritation for me is that the brother was actually better at hiding the dots.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 22:58:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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They don't necessarily have to trace the dots back to the purchase of the printer. They can simply match up your "incriminating" pages with other things you've printed, and show that they came from the same printer. It's just one element of a larger set of forensics that they might use to prosecute a case.

Think of it as the modern equivalent of what they used to do with pages from a manual typewriter, where they'd look at little idiosyncrasies of the characters and be able to match it up to the suspect's typewriter.

[#] Sat Feb 07 2009 23:06:07 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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It's just more obsurdity, criminals would just get someone to hack out the firmware or driver to omitt the dots. Heck, I saw a crack that removes the dollar recognition in photoshop cs4 just last week. I think it's floating around usenet.

[#] Sun Feb 08 2009 08:04:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's even worse -- "printed by a color laser printer that has had its tracking dots disabled" is even more incriminating.

After all, if you're not breaking the law, you have nothing to hide; isn't that right, citizen?

[#] Mon Feb 09 2009 16:10:35 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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it's like the guy who burned off his fingerprints.
Of course as long as everybody burns off their fingerprints it does work.

[#] Mon Feb 09 2009 17:30:08 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Seems to me like it would be a better idea to wear gloves that have someone else's fingerprints engraved on them. And of course destroy those gloves after committing a crime.

I mentioned tracking dots today and someone said "
"well, that's what Kinko's is for!"

[#] Mon Feb 09 2009 18:27:19 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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Are we talking about criminals or just your average joe six pack turned criminal? Criminals are just going to steal the printer so there is no record of anyone ever purchasing it and then destroy the printer when they're done.
And if you're a REAL criminal, you're not using crappy office equipment to print cash.

[#] Tue Feb 10 2009 12:40:46 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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A good rule of thumb would be to avoid the use of color copiers that have bill acceptors in their document feeders. (Can you say "entrapment?" I knew you could!)

[#] Tue Feb 10 2009 21:25:35 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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Actually, if I understand it correctly, the act of reproducing US currancy, by itself, is not against the law - which allows for reproductions in ads and art, but the attempt to use counterfeit money as real currancy is against the law. That's why even if you make crappy looking money and fool a soda machine, it's still against the law, but showing perfect reproductions of money in a magazine ad is not.

[#] Wed Feb 11 2009 21:46:31 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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I just got back from Phoenix AZ.  While there I visited the Fry's Electronics store.  Damn.  I am impressed.  Hard drives by the pallet.  Boxes of motherboards stacked up.  Every accessory you can think of.


I think they sell some other junk too, but who cares about that?

[#] Thu Feb 12 2009 07:45:34 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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heh, they used to only sell that other junk.
I ermember the first time I went to a fry's, it was like the electronics stores my dad used to take me to when I was a kid that are all but gone now.
I guess they've gone mainstream as well.

[#] Thu Feb 12 2009 07:49:41 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Thu Feb 12 2009 18:52:11 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Yea, I wish there were still stores selling the "other junk". Canal St (in NYC) used to be lined with such stores. Tons of new, surplus and used electronics.
It was great. Now they are only two surplus places left there, neither of them that exciting. Most of the plastics places are gone too.

[#] Fri Feb 13 2009 10:27:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I wish there were a Fry's in the northeast. It would be nice to be able to wander in and pick up stuff.

Sadly, these days if you're building something from parts you'll usually have to settle for mail order. Which reminds me ... dunno if y'all already knew about this, but is a good starting point for that, they've got a search engine for electronic parts so you don't have to go to Mouser, Digikey, etc. etc. looking for what you want.

I wonder if the relationship between economics and globalization will eventually swing the pendulum away from the culture of throw-away electronics.

[#] Fri Feb 13 2009 10:54:28 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Speaking of.... I'm looking to purchase a variety of springs. I'd like a large grab bag, with varying sizes.....

[#] Fri Feb 13 2009 13:53:05 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I wonder if the relationship between economics and globalization will

eventually swing the pendulum away from the culture of throw-away

Why would it? If anything it'll become moreso.
As things become cheaper to produce (as they will since there will be more buying people to produce for) they'll be less likely to be anything but all the functionality on one chip.
When they get really cheap, they'll just make alinux chip and write everything in software.

[#] Sat Feb 14 2009 09:58:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That misses the point. "Cheap" is currently cheap because of economic disparity.
Your cheap parts are made by slave labor in China. If we didn't live in an affluent part of the world (some say we're headed in that direction), would those parts then be cheap enough to throw away?

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