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[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 08:24:06 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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my machine 2gig w2k.

[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 11:38:20 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I just found out that you can use the wheel to scroll the tabs in firefox, much much faster than clicking on the silly arrows.

[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 18:49:50 EST from Bryon Roche @ Uncensored

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hrm.. I draw a blank, thinking on that info.  I'm going to assume you're on ffox 3.  Does the windows ffox3 use gtk, or MFC?  It's so much harder to diagnose memory leaks there.

[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 19:48:50 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Wed Nov 19 2008 18:49:50 EST from Bryon Roche@uncnsrd

hrm.. I draw a blank, thinking on that info.  I'm going to assume you're on ffox 3.  Does the windows ffox3 use gtk, or MFC?  It's so much harder to diagnose memory leaks there.
Windows Firefox does *not* use MFC.  I feel fairly confident in saying this.  I am fairly certain, once you find the lowest-layer of their own graphics objects, they're using straight Win32 system calls to handle the controls, if not outright rendering everything themselves.

 

It uses Gecko.  And its own peculiar COM-like thing.  It has this amazing abstract layer for handling GUI elements in a cross-platform fashion.

[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 21:32:45 EST from Bryon Roche @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 21:38:59 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Am I the only one getting these occasional blank messages or is it not just a text client thing?

[#] Wed Nov 19 2008 23:33:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It isn't just you.

[#] Thu Nov 20 2008 08:22:21 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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http://dindinx.net/hotbabe/

if wmfire isn't cute enough...



[#] Thu Nov 20 2008 08:31:19 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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That is funny!!

[#] Fri Nov 21 2008 00:41:17 EST from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Tue Nov 18 2008 20:09:19 EST from Ford II@uncnsrd

Anybody else having this problem: firefox is rapidly turning to a big piece of shit.
It's gotten to the point where it's only a few hours before it's eating over a gig of memory and spikes the cpu for 3-4 seconds every minute or so. Insanely annoying.
Ford, Yeah, I'm having a similar issue with ff3 on xp.  Too bad, too, used to be a good stable alternative to IE.  And yeah, the scrolling tabs are nice. ;-)

[#] Fri Nov 21 2008 17:24:14 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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The world needs a 6 button mouse.

[#] Fri Nov 21 2008 17:28:11 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Five for each finger, and another one for the palm itself.

[#] Fri Nov 21 2008 17:38:08 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Three for the Elven-kings under the sky...

[#] Sat Nov 22 2008 00:22:49 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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i have a trackball with four buttins and the top two and bottom two can chord
six buttons

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 05:17:08 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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 http://www.datahand.com/

these had 5 keys per finger instantly reachable, but like fingerworks, they're out of business now.

In the time of everybody buying logitech piece of plastic crap, theres no place for sophisticated keyboards anymore...

 

Ah, and while we're at it: STOP BETA!

 

http://gizmodo.com/5083371/a-call-for-revolution-against-beta-culture



[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 07:21:45 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You know, it'd be nice to Stop Beta, but it won't ever happen.

The consumers are to blame.

My company used to carefully examine their software and hardware before release.  Everything was always perfect before it went out the door.  And, consequently, other companies beat us to something called 'mindshare'.  As a consequence, we had the better product, but nobody knew about us, and wouldn't buy the product, because they were familiar with the competitor.

So, today, we rush things out the door and fix it later.  Because, unfortunately, it sells better.

It's so stupid, but there's nothing for it until consumer culture changes.



[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 07:54:19 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Everyone's got a different idea of what constitutes "Beta." GMail is labelled Beta, but it's probably the highest-quality webmail program out there. Microsoft products go through a series of "release candidates" followed by an official release, and then by SP2 or SP3 it's beta quality, but the "beta" label is long gone.

So here's the official definition -- it depends on the platform.

"beta"

Mainframe applications: a six to twelve month period when professional testers exercise a program under real-world loads with production data, documenting the results.

Desktop applications: the first successful compile.

Web applications: when a cool codename has been picked and t-shirts printed, and some vague notions of what the program will do have been tossed around.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 09:25:14 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Er, not entirely agreeing with the desktop application definition there, although it's close.

For desktop applications, the application transitions from alpha to beta generally at the point when QA indicates that the application's primary purpose is fulfilled under ideal circumstances, with mostly no negative testing, and no odd conditions.

But, yeah, it often feels like 'when it successfully compiles'.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 10:06:48 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Funny, I just posted a question on so about that last week:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/302193/what-is-the-value-of-a-beta-release-closed

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 10:07:11 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I dunno when this started, but did you see you can now promote and nix search results on google?

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