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[#] Sat Apr 25 2009 17:35:47 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, at a guess, on a Windows machine, INI files can be read via system calls, which grants you the ability to make changes to INI files from different processes without risk of fucking up the files (two processes trying to write to the same INI file at the same time).

You have no such protections with XML unless you go to an awful lot of trouble to use a single process to handle the manipulations... and even then, I'm not sure how robust any process could be in writing to an XML file format.

[#] Sat Apr 25 2009 21:16:31 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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knows, I'm no fan of making everything XML, but I can't see why this
one would need to get switched back to something else.

You should see some of websphere's config files.
Also, ini's are just dandy with dot notation namespaces.

websphere.version.2.suck = yes
websphere.version.3.suck = more

and so on...

[#] Sun Apr 26 2009 22:00:44 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Oh god no, never look at WS's config files. If you try to edit them by hand, you are so totally screwed. Aren't they all binary *anyway*?

[#] Sun Apr 26 2009 22:39:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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One of the nice things about dumping config files or whatever into XML is that you don't have to worry about them being in an architecture-specific format, which is what you get with just writing structs out to disk.  On the other hand, you don't need XML for that; any text-based format will do.

Hmm ... since we're talking Java here, what format do you get when you use the Java serialization API?  Is it portable?

 



[#] Mon Apr 27 2009 14:18:48 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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It's a binary thing, but it's portable.

[#] Mon Apr 27 2009 14:19:33 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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It's portable in the architecture-independence sense, but it can be brittle if you subsequently change the layout of the class that was serialized.

[#] Mon Apr 27 2009 17:05:40 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Hmm ... since we're talking Java here, what format do you get when you use the Java serialization API?  Is it portable?


You know, except for compile once, debug evrywhere, its portable ;)

it doesn't know byteorder unless you use JNI.



[#] Mon Apr 27 2009 21:07:40 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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the whole "compile once, debug anywhere" thing is kind of unfair to Java. Java doesn't really suffer from that problem in a major way unless you are using AWT/Swing.

[#] Mon Apr 27 2009 22:53:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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"Write once, debug everywhere" was a marketing-assassination effort led by those who had a vested interest in Java's failure. On the desktop side of things, this effort mostly worked, because AWT was so amazingly crappy that it really did end up looking different on every host system. Swing was more consistent but it was ugly. By the time they got their act together, most developers had either given up or moved to things like Qt if they wanted portability.

Not so on the server side, of course; Java ended up replacing COBOL as the lingua franca of business logic. Whether that is good or bad is left as an exercise for the reader :)

[#] Tue Apr 28 2009 07:17:39 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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No, they're all xml (at least in was5 they were) but they're huge, unwieldly and if you make the slightest typo your system won't start up and you'll never know why.
You must must must use the admin console.

[#] Thu Apr 30 2009 07:41:04 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed May 20 2009 21:45:00 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I had a thought today.
google is the undisputed king of search, it's impossible to imagine anybody unseating them.
How could they, you'd have to do better than google, and be cheaper, which unless you're planning on giving money away for searching on your website, you're not going to be.
But I noticed something. While I was writing my iphone application and I kept trying to look up reference for the api and other things I had a really hard time finding information in google because mac gets such a relativly small percentage of the development market.
But more importantly: google failed. And where they failed, somebody else can succeed.
So indeed it is not impossible to unseat the king (I mean it never has been, it just takes time) but here, we can see an instance of a crack in the glass.

[#] Wed May 20 2009 23:05:46 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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For a search engine to find something, it has to be out there to begin with.



[#] Thu May 21 2009 10:42:51 EDT from roue @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Ford II: you may have missed Google's topic specific search. Ferinstance: http://www.google.com/mac/

[#] Thu May 21 2009 16:00:58 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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perhaps you could use http://www.google.com/mac to only search mac sites.

[#] Thu May 21 2009 16:01:33 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You mean, all five of them? Including Apple?

[#] Thu May 21 2009 17:49:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Mac users don't need web sites because they mind-meld with Steve Jobs every morning.

[#] Thu May 21 2009 22:23:16 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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well, that;'s the thing there are mac sites, just very few of them. So while they may be unpopular in the grand scheme of things, in their genre, they should bubble to the top.
And this is where google or somebody else could do better. google measures a page versus the whole, not versus other pages like it. Or at least it seems to.

[#] Thu May 21 2009 23:14:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It does a lot of things, and they're always changing it.

One thing that I've noticed about Google lately is that they now use your past searches and other behavior to guess which results will be more relevant to you. For example, if I search for "groupware" I get http://www.citadel.org as the first result. But if I then enable porn mode (using the Stealther extension in Firefox) and perform the same search, citadel.org doesn't even appear on the first page of results.

I would imagine this has the privacy people up in arms, but as Scott McNealy said, "you have no privacy. Get over it."

[#] Tue May 26 2009 07:29:23 EDT from cgrant @ My Castle Wall

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Sean Carruthers accidentally found himself in the world of tech journalism in 1997 after years of selling CDs to underaged prairie gangstas. Since that point, he's written for The Computer Paper, HUB Digital Living, The Globe and Mail, The Village Voice, Homefront, CE-Biz, onAir, TUXmagazine.com, and more. His record reviews have appeared at allmusic.com, rollingstone.com, msn.com and barnesandnoble.com. Sean is currently a tech researcher on Call for Help, and makes occasional appearances as the Gadget Guy for the show. Unlike Andy, he thinks beets are fantastic http://www.labrats.tv/

Andy Walker b.4th/7/1967 a Canadian television presenter and journalist born in Norwich England immigrated to Canada at the age of eight and raised in Beaconsfield Quebec.  Walker is best known as having co-hosted alongside  Leo Laporte & Amber MacArther of Call For Help, a technology help program on G4techtv in Canada.  Walker did a How to Channel in Australia.  In Andy’s segment he showed how computer technology mechanisms work using food demos.  In one show he built a transistor out of cheddar cheese & tomatoes juices.  Walker circa late 2006 co-hosted an internet pod cast (vidcast) called lab-rats with Sean Carruthers.

 



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