I don't hate American football - I do get annoyed at some of the obnoxiousness of some of its fans. I've seen some of the former U of Minnesota football coaches at practices, and found them obnoxious and arrogant (and we're talking University of Minnesota football here). Over the last ten years, I have completely lost interest in the game, however.
Eli and I do use the term "pointyball" to refer to the game most of us refer to as football - it helps for us, and for the number of people we know who use the word football to refer to the game we generally know of as soccer.
Subject: Re:New York Giants 2008 Superbowl champions!!!
Groo, the grumbling was because the Pats really *could* - and probably even should - have won the game....had they not decided to stop playing before it was over. Those last passes by Brady and the associated fumbles were, imho, just plain giving up. They deserved what they got. But it pisses me off because without the hubris they really could have had the perfect season.