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[#] Mon Jan 24 2011 14:36:54 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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Also...there is some doubt about the validity of the paper..... http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/24/italian-scientists-claim-cold-fusion-breakthrough/

 

It was rejected by several peer review journals.  It was published online at a site founded by the authors.  So don't get your hopes up.



[#] Mon Jan 24 2011 22:20:19 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I just got that today from a friend of mine.
Yeah, right. the italians.

[#] Thu Jan 27 2011 03:09:31 EST from saltine @ Uncensored

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Did you guys ever read about the nuclear powered tunneling machines that were going to move under the earth and melt rock in front of them, creating glasslike tunnels for military purposes?

[#] Thu Jan 27 2011 05:52:17 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hmno, I just heard that somewhen in the 60'ies they imagined to use nukes to create oil tanks under the earth with not much work..

just make the nuke melt the stone, wait some years, fill your oil inside, done.



[#] Thu Jan 27 2011 20:10:18 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well, there certainly was plenty of underground nuclear testing. It began in 1951 and continued until the various test ban treaties were signed. The melt radius isn't actually all that large (wikipedophilia says 4 to 12 meters per kiloton) so it probably isn't worth it to use nukes for that purpose.

[#] Thu Jan 27 2011 20:33:07 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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So I got hold of a DVD that calls itself the best of star trek next generation.
After watching this review...
http://www.redlettermedia.com/star_trek_09.html

It makes the problems with star trek all that much more obvious.
This is the 'best of' mind you and it's got the borg-eats-picard episode cliffhanger pair on it.
This is the best star trek has to offer? It's amazing it didn't die an earlier death.
I realize the point of science fiction is to protray stories of moral and ethical dilemmas in a science fiction background.
But you lose all sense of reality when the three people who are going to save the known universe and are in a real bind can't do more than slowly stroll down the hallway rather than FUCKING RUN to where they need to be.
Notice how kirk ran all over the place in star trek the star trek? And picard can't ever do more than stroll.

TNG is so lame and boring I'm amazed they got as many seasons out of it as they did.

And if you guys haven't seen plinketts reviews, you gotta waste an hour and a half (yes, an hour and a half) review of star wars episode 1. It's hysterical.

[#] Fri Jan 28 2011 14:41:50 EST from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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TNG is definately my least favorite trek series (even Voyager was vastly superior, IMHO). In my mind, the only way it got through the first couple dreadful season was because it had the trek name. The middle seasons weren't bad, and the last couple they ran out of steam (Data almost invaribly saved the day).

 

However, TNG did change how sci-fi was portrayed on television. Television Sci-fi is much more character driven, and carried by the ensemble, then in shows prior. The term "character growth" didn't apply in the original Trek, or pretty much any sci-fi show prior to TNG (even where the emphasis was on charcters because of the total lack of budget, like in Blakes 7), and because of it, allowed television-based science fiction to gain a larger audience than it had before.



[#] Mon Jan 31 2011 07:25:27 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I thought Babylon 5 drove the character development, and Star Trek, DS9 had to do much the same to keep from being obsoleted.



[#] Mon Jan 31 2011 14:40:11 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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Ahhhh, I remember the whole "conflict" between Babylon 5 and DS9. I don't remember all the details, but I remember when one of the shows introduced "the spaceship" featured in many of the stories, the other one followed with a similar idea within a few weeks. I remember there being many accusations of copy-catting when that happened, and, of course, both production teams saying that it was just all coincidence.
Sci-fi Binder

[#] Mon Jan 31 2011 17:57:28 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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That may be, but I still preferred Babylon 5 for their amazing 5 year story line.  The other wasn't so bad, either, but I really, really liked Babylon 5.  I think Star Trek had too much baggage to endure to do what Babylon 5 could do.



[#] Mon Jan 31 2011 20:43:55 EST from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Bruce Boxleitner didn't hurt, either....

What came first - the Trill or the Go'uld?



[#] Mon Jan 31 2011 21:35:51 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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and then there's "space above and beyond". Unquestionably the worst title of anything let alone a TV series but it was my favorite and I think they cancelled it before anybody besides me got to see it because nobody has ever heard of it but me it seems.

[#] Tue Feb 01 2011 10:03:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I think we're all missing the big picture here.

If it's cutting edge, genre defining television we're talking about, the real game changer was Mystery Science Theater 3000.

[#] Tue Feb 01 2011 11:22:41 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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Stargate (the movie) was released in 1994, Deep Space 9 in 1993.   So the Trill were first.  If I remember correctly, the Trill first were introduced earlier in an episode TNG.

 

But, the whole concept of a parasite controlling or merging with a Human being is a pretty old plot device.



[#] Tue Feb 01 2011 15:37:07 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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Re: Trill vs. Goa'uld.

To go one step further, the Goa'uld, as a race, weren't really presented until the "Stargate SG-1" TV series premiered in 1997. The Trill definitely came first.

I remember "Space: Above and Beyond," too, and, though I wouldn't call it one of my favorites, I did find it to be a very compelling show. I don't know if it would be a stretch, but I almost consider it to be a precursor to the modern "Battlestar Galactica." Both shows portrayed a military group operating in space, and both portrayals did their best to not hold any punches when it comes to violence in war and its consequences.

IG's right, though. Cutting-edge, genre-defining programming has to pull in a big audience very early or it gets quashed. To wit, two science-fiction TV series that I've been avidly watching, "Stargate Universe" and "Caprica" have been nixed or are likely to be nixed in the near future. Another short lived series I like, "Journeyman," was cancelled after only one season.

Le sigh.
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[#] Tue Feb 01 2011 22:23:27 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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yes, stargate universe in particular has a
lot of potentuial...probably doomed.

same thing happened to the dresden files.
very well done series about a wizard/private
detective in chicago. cancelled in one short
season.

[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 00:46:29 EST from Sig @ Uncensored

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But available on Netflix streaming if you missed it the first time.

[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 11:35:12 EST from boo-boo @ Uncensored

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NOOOOO!!!  I am loyal viewer of both Caprica and Stargate Universe.   I also loved the Dresdan Files.  SyFy - just teases me.  I love the British version of "Being Human"  not completely sold on the America version yet but I'm willing to give it more time.



[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 16:36:22 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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Unfortunately, Caprica has already been given the axe. The final five episodes--perhaps an off-color nod to Battlestar Galactica?--were broadcast in a mini-marathon a few weeks ago.

Last I read, SyFy channel decided not to order a third season for Stargate Universe. Which means we'll get to see the remainder of season two in Spring or Summer, but after that, there may not be any more. From what I've read, when a channel decides not to order new episodes, it effectively means the show is cancelled.

There's certainly a possibility that either show could be picked up by another channel, but what I've read about both shows says that ratings have fallen, so it's unlikely that another channel would want to pick them up. Babylon 5 was one of those shows that changed channels during its lifetime. It aired in syndication for the first four seasons until it got picked up by TNT.

I haven't watched "Being Human" but I've definitely been following "Doctor Who" and "Torchwood" on BBC America. I know Doctor Who is slated to return in the spring. I'm not sure when Torchwood returns, though.
SyFy Binder

[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 17:17:05 EST from boo-boo @ Uncensored

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Oh man!  Oh I do know what's the deal with Torchwood - I think it is moving to Showtime - which sucks because I don't get Showtime.  It will be interesting because only Gwen and Jack made it through the chaos of last season.

 



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