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[#] Tue Jan 30 2007 00:15:01 EST from anonymous @ Haven BBS

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When does the new season of Eureka begin?

[#] Tue Jan 30 2007 00:38:25 EST from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Not until July.  :-(

[#] Tue Jan 30 2007 00:44:52 EST from anonymous @ Haven BBS

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[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 13:12:49 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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And no Stargate until April! :(

But "Battlestar Galactica" and "Heroes" are both, IMO, really good shows, so I'm not jonesing too much over Stargate and Eureka.
Sci-Fi Binder

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 13:14:17 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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are they still on intoning "hallowed are the ori" on a regular basis? they sorta lost me there.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 13:30:20 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I've been getting into Heroes myself.

Sometimes, it can be rather thought provoking, if you decide to get into things a bit.

Particularly the cop with the mind-reading skills. Fascinating conflicts there.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 14:33:29 EST from Magus @ Uncensored

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Yeah, I've been surprisingly pleased with Heroes. It's fluffy enough that its problems don't bother me, and it's got enough going on that I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.

I liked Eureka too, although I'm inclined to suggest that whoever wrote thatf finale needs killing.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 14:35:06 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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I miss sci-fi with "honorable enemies," e.g. the Romulans, B5's Centauri. The Ori are caricatures, the Ori's followers slightly less so. The Goa'uld were saved from being caricatures only by the Tok'Ra and certain factions of the Jaffa...

The "sarcophagi makes them evil" argument is too easy.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 14:49:59 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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When Syler killed Eden (or whatever her name is), why didn't he escape?

He had a gun, the window to his cell was broken... while I know there was another locked door, it seems he need only wait for someone to open it to get out... why didn't he escape? Seems like a loose end.

Another loose end: Mr. Bennett was not affected by Eden when he first met her. I don't recall that the Haitian guy was around to dampen anything, so how did he resist Eden's voice? Or are we about to discover in the next episode that Mr. Bennett has a secret ability of his own (although, if he does, what kind of ability would resist Eden's voice but not resist the mind-reading cop?).

It's a great show, and they really do catch an awful lot of details, but I can't help but wonder about some of these items. Anyone notice anything else they may have missed, or have an idea why any of what I mentioned might not be an issue?

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 15:24:23 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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The "sarcophagi makes them evil" argument is too easy.

I don't think it was ever said that the sarcophagi make them evil.

It was noted that too much time could cause changes in one's mindset, as waa evidenced in the episode where Daniel is repeatedly placed inside one.

The Goa'uld are evil, all by themselves.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 15:29:34 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Well, the Tok'Ra rejected the use of the sarcophagus, and it was probably one of the things they campaigned against before they were cast out.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 16:06:51 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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names with apostrophes in them are dumb, sci-fi or not.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 16:11:42 EST from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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F'o'r'd... That's a mean thing to say.

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 17:30:54 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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To me, when the Ori were introduced, they were an enemy that seemd very chilling.
They weren't like the Goa'uld -- pretending to be gods for their own pleasure -- they were trying to push a belief system with the power to perform the "miracles" in their scripture. Far more convincing, to me, at least.

But I do agree that the whole Ori backstory has gotten kinda hokey, and the tie-ins with Arthurian legend haven't been as engrossing as I was hoping they'd be.

I've also felt kinda "blah" about Stargate: Atlantis, as well. Though I must admit that the last few episodes from last year were pretty good, and I would like to see how that story gets resolved.
Spe'll B'inder

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 17:37:24 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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fleeb: Re: Heroes.

In the "flashback" episode, when Bennett meets Eden for the first time, they very very briefly showed the Haitian standing in the background. I almost missed it, but I record all my shows onto a DVR and watch 'em later, so I was able to rewind and catch it.

But you are right about Sylar. He basically had a way out. Why is he still there? Either the "clinic" has some more security that hasn't been shown yet, or Sylar decided to remain because he felt there was something to gain.
(Let Bennett bring all the heroes in and then Sylar can grab 'em all at once?)

I definitely know what you mean about the show being deep if you get into it. Suresh's monologues and epilogues can be quite thought-provoking and almost have a poetic or lyrical quality to them.
Hiro Binder

[#] Thu Feb 01 2007 22:52:37 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I'll have to take another look at that episode (all of mine are downloaded from iTunes... I watch them on my iPod on my way to work).

It's interesting how, lately, the running theme seems to be about learning to control the abilities they have.  The mind-reader said he couldn't control it... Hiro cannot control his ability (can't get it to work at all, and believes he needs a focus), Peter is trying to find someone to help him control his ability (so he won't kill everyone), and in the previous episode the nuclear guy was actively working on controlling his ability, since he unintentionally killed his wife because of his lack of control... oh, and the mirror-lady in the padded cell feels out of control.  More subtly, the mirror-lady tells her husband that her son needs boundaries... and almost immediately thereafter the kid takes money from an ATM using his own special ability.  More complex, the painter learns how to do what he can do without drugs... sort of establishing control over his abilities without having to be out of control, so to speak.  Even Eden, after a fashion, seemed to have a need to learn control, and I think it's implied that Clair's real mother had to figure out how to control her ability.

This said, there appear to be some who do not require much effort to control what they can do.  The mirror-lady's husband doesn't seem to accidentally sink into the ground or anything.  Peter's older brother, the flying man, never seems to have a problem doing what he can do.  Syler ... well, he doesn't seem inclined to try to control what he can do (I suppose you could say he's about as out of control as imaginable).  The Haitian guy has no problems controlling what he can do (although it's interesting that he only speaks to Claire... as if by some peculiar choice... even Eden thought he was mute).  And the knowledge-sponge waitress in Texas, before she died, didn't seem to have a need to control what she could do.

[#] Fri Feb 02 2007 11:51:47 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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why don't they make alien names like "oob" or "guk" or "bleeeeaaahhhhhhhhgguhix."

[#] Fri Feb 02 2007 11:57:10 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I kind of like 'Biff' myself.

[#] Fri Feb 02 2007 15:58:11 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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fleeb: It's quite possible that the writers are continually protraying the heroes trying to control their powers as a metaphor for controlling their lives. They've all been thrust into situations they've never before encountered.
Dramatic, or traumatic, changes like that can often leave a person feeling helpless, but, if they're strong enough, also a need to adapt and cope with the new situations.

Or, it could just be a story element being used to build up the tension and drama preceding the nuclear disaster.
Drama Binder

[#] Fri Feb 02 2007 21:33:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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why don't they make alien names like "oob" or "guk" or

Or perhaps "Invader Zim"

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