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[#] Mon Dec 29 2008 22:29:02 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I'm going to guess that the matter of precision timing didn't exist until fairly recently, and only those who cared bothered to use a system.
Probably only people started to care as they started trading with those who had it already: the europeans, so everybody just conformed since they had nothing better.
That's my guess anyway.

[#] Mon Dec 29 2008 23:45:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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We need metric time.

Yes! With daylight savings time permanently eliminated, and the whole world on a single time zone!

[#] Tue Dec 30 2008 00:43:18 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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Big time topic drift....

 

So I'll add my two cents.  Thank Babylon for our 24 hour clock.  http://everything2.com/e2node/24%2520hour%2520clock 

 

I also vaguely remeber something about a base 12 number system in use then.  Our hour system is a remnant of that.



[#] Tue Dec 30 2008 12:35:35 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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The link suggests a astronomical reason as well... probably related to the zodiac (twelve signs of the zodiac).

I wonder if there were any other time systems, though, beyond 'sunup' and 'sundown' (and the like). 



[#] Tue Jan 06 2009 20:46:07 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Teen sex pledges.....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123120095259855597.html

Dr. Healy pointed out that "virginity pledging teens were considerably more
conservative in their overall sexual behaviors than teens in general -- a fact
that many media reports have missed cold."

[#] Tue Jan 06 2009 21:08:04 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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I don't think as many people are missing the point as Mr McGurn wishes. The point is that virginity pledges not only did not stop kids from having sex.. but also that the pledges.. or the ideology that came along with the pledges, resulted in a greater incidence of unsafe sex. If the control group was equally conservative, it would only serve to underscore the valuelessness.. or negative value.. of the pledges.. all other things being equal. If the control group was a less conservative group, the gap would only be wider. By comparing a less conservative group with a more conservative group, I am sure interesting things could be learned. But that's a different study.

[#] Tue Jan 06 2009 23:38:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The problem I'm seeing with this whole debate is that it blurs the line between encouraging teens to practice abstinence and outright keeping them in the dark in the area of sex education. There's no need to dump the two into one bin.

[#] Wed Jan 07 2009 00:14:37 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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Interesting article, after all this time, scientists are still not

entirely sure what causes men to ejaculate - in the biological

sense of it all - whether it's part mental or physical, there is still

a great deal of unknown to it :

 

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2835/how-does-ejaculation-work

 

 

And the part that made me laugh out loud:

"For example, a recent letter to the journal Medical Hypotheses suggests that ejaculation might relieve nasal congestion.

The people at Kleenex must be thinking: one way or another, they'll still need us."



[#] Wed Jan 07 2009 00:55:16 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Jan 6 2009 11:38pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
The problem I'm seeing with this whole debate is that it blurs the line

between encouraging teens to practice abstinence and outright keeping

them in the dark in the area of sex education. There's no need to dump

the two into one bin.



The problem is that when both you (the parents and the teachers) and the kids (taking oaths of abstinence) are in denial about their likely future sexual activity, neither one of you are going to take the future risks seriously.
"Ok Bobby, we both know you are a 15 year old boy and therefore have no interest in sex, so of course you want to sign this virginity pledge and lead a perfect life like your mom and dad. But since we both know you're most likely going to break that pledge, here's where you can get condoms without embarrassment, and oh by the way if you want to keep them in your top left drawer I will never ever look there.. and here's how you can get AIDS, and here's how you can't"... Somehow I just don't see that conversation taking place.

[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 00:02:43 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I think the "oath of abstinence" thing is a bit over-the-top to begin with.

[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 01:01:35 EST from simplygorgeous @ My Castle Wall

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From a young age i taught both my daughters all the real facts about sex ..the ins the outs ....the do.s the donts ..the diseases...pregnancy ..blow jobs ..the whole kit n kaboodle .....i dont beleive in dumbing down the issue ..the mess the smell absolutly everything ...any way i have one daughter who ended up treasuring her vaginity like it was gold .while my other decide she wishes to share it around .......you can teach them all you can ..but society has a good grasp on them too ......

 

 



[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 15:26:04 EST from Dogmaticus @ Uncensored

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Tue Dec 09 2008 01:52:59 EST from triLcat@uncnsrd

Just out of curiousity...

How old does a girl have to be before checking her out isn't creepy? (Assuming a guy who is 20 and assuming that he only looks and doesn't touch or even talk to the girl)

 

Suggestion (old rough rule of thumb) half your age plus 7.  Or was that dating?

[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 16:25:06 EST from Dogmaticus @ Uncensored

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Good for you. "A man armed with anothers knowledge is less likely to make the same mistakes.  If he cares to learn."

 Nice to know there are some parents that do not rely on society to teach the kids about sex.  Society will cotradict itself, and chew the poor little devils up, and spit out the used remnant.

 

 



[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 16:35:17 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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I certainly think that accurate information goes a long way towards keeping your kids sane and safe.

I think parents have a right and obligation to tell their kids their own feelings on the subject and make their suggestions, but the reality is that unless you're going to follow your kid around with a shotgun 24/7, you're not going to be able to prevent them from having sex before marriage. It's going to end up being their decision.

 



[#] Fri Jan 16 2009 10:24:11 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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This is absolutely fantastic !!

 

Hallmark Introduces Gay Marriage Cards

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/21/business/main4369335.shtml

 

I'm going to send my sister-in-law one of these. This is awesome news, to

see more and more this, where it's just normal as anything else.

 



[#] Fri Jan 16 2009 11:23:49 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Cool.

[#] Fri Jan 16 2009 14:38:12 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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far be it from hallmark to pass up an opportunity to sell paper at high prices.

[#] Fri Jan 16 2009 17:15:12 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Individual stores have the option as to whether or not to carry the cards (of course).

But, Hallmark is responding to increasing demand, not to political pressure.
So, yeah, there's money to be made here, and they're chasing it.

That, to me, is more cool than anything else. I think we're becoming a lot more accepting of same-gendered couples.

[#] Sat Jan 17 2009 10:11:53 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Makes our ancestors look pretty closed minded and pathetic.

[#] Sat Jan 17 2009 11:44:31 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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Doesn't take long in any country to do that - just go back even 50 years.

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