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[#] Sun Jan 04 2009 12:37:54 EST from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Leave it to Ford to add more confusion to the mix....

[#] Sun Jan 04 2009 13:45:15 EST from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Is it possible to hash a password on the 'net without resorting to the use of JavaScript?

[#] Sun Jan 04 2009 15:47:34 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Sun Jan 04 2009 13:45:15 EST from Nite*Star@uncnsrd

Is it possible to hash a password on the 'net without resorting to the use of JavaScript?


Encrypt it server-side, decrypt it client-side.  May require a plug-in. 

[#] Sun Jan 04 2009 16:03:44 EST from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Encrypt it server-side, decrypt it client-side. May require a plug-in.

Erm, how does one go about doing that? This is for sending login info (username/pw), remember ...

[#] Mon Jan 05 2009 09:22:08 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You might have better luck describing the full intent of what you're trying to do, to include the kind of environment you have to use, and so on.

You may have a number of ways to accomplish what you wish to accomplish, all depending upon your limitations. For example, you could just use an SSH connection to establish credentials. You could use the credential system of your web server (e.g. Basic Authentication). You could have a DirectX control embedded in the page that can translate what someone types into a hash that is matched by a similar control on the web server itself. Or maybe you could figure out a way to use JavaScript to come up with an encryption scheme that could not easily be broken (although I doubt that's possible).

It really depends upon your needs.

[#] Mon Jan 05 2009 13:49:58 EST from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Ah well it really was for a debate with a friend who is trying to say that the only way to encrypt/hash a password for use to log in to a web site is to use JS. I told him that it's not a good idea to rely on users having JS enabled so I was looking for a way that would hash the PW and make it unreadable as it travels over the 'net to the server for user login to the web site. I thought there would be some other method.

[#] Mon Jan 05 2009 14:09:10 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, again, ssh will do the job quite nicely. It'll be encrypted on-the-fly, and decrypted on-the-fly at the other end.

Technically, even with the DirectX approach, you'd probably need to use some JavaScript to extract the information from the DirectX control (unless you really cripple the page and force it to use VBScript or something... which is doable if you're stuck with DirectX; the page would only work in IE, I think).

Unless, of course, the entire application is the DirectX plugin, in which case you can do whatever you want without using JavaScript at all.

I wonder how much you could do with Flash, for that matter.

[#] Mon Jan 05 2009 16:16:15 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Is it possible to hash a password on the 'net without resorting to the

use of JavaScript?

Don't hash the password. Run the whole session over SSL.

[#] Mon Jan 05 2009 16:17:57 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Gah, I keep writing 'ssh', and thinking 'ssl'.

[#] Mon Jan 05 2009 16:56:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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SSH uses SSL, so, no big deal. :)

[#] Tue Jan 06 2009 13:21:38 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I love boost.

I really love this set of libraries.

In only half a day, I created a generic class for buffering instances of something for a particular duration, and calling some function when that duration expires, the timing handled asynchronously (so I didn't have to use another thread).

So, if I wanted to delay sending video out by so many seconds, I could use this object.

Or, if I wanted to delay captioning before passing it on, I could do that, too.

It preserves the original timing, just delayed by however much time I wanted (down to milliseconds).

I can even do something really bizarre, and create one of these things such that it adjusts the delay of the other one until the delay reaches zero, varying the amount of delay over time (which is one of my design goals, bizarrely enough... I actually need this).

[#] Tue Jan 06 2009 22:38:42 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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and boost compiles for your little embedding video thing?

[#] Wed Jan 07 2009 07:52:13 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I do not have any problems working with it at all, provided I use a modern compiler.  It isn't as happy with VC++ 6.0.

[#] Wed Jan 07 2009 22:24:05 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I was worried about how slow mysql might be, but I just noticed they're really small tables right now, but I'm getting 0 ms response time.
Not bad at all.

[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 07:39:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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"If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in."

[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 12:28:57 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Anybody know of a web based charting library/utility?
As in, I want to hit a url like this:

And it will result in a png/jpeg/whatever that shows a pie chart with 3 sections in 10, 20 and 70% filled out.
I'm sure such a thing exists, but I figured you guys would knwo what it's called.
For linux, that I can plug into apache would be ideal.

[#] Thu Jan 08 2009 14:07:52 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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[#] Fri Jan 09 2009 08:36:08 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Fri Jan 09 2009 08:52:08 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Not the right approach, in my humble opinion.

I think there is value in learning from the bottom up. Learn how the machine thinks, then work your way up towards stuff like that.

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