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[#] Sun Nov 23 2008 21:29:26 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Yeah, most of us also went from dos->win31->linux... but some of us actually went back to Windows after Windows stopped sucking so damned much, and started being a reasonable multitasking/internet/memory protection platform. Oops, I just got myself burned at the stake, didn't I?

Anyway, Umm, I think Xen paravirtualization is, although maybe a lot of the techniques they use are no longer quite so relevant now that VT cpu's are mainstream, paravirt is still important because device drivers in general perform better when they are working via hypercall instead of some crappy emulated hardware interface.

[#] Sun Nov 23 2008 23:02:39 EST from Bryon Roche @ Uncensored

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What if the hypercall is implemented with the same API as a hardware interface?  I like the way KVM goes with that..

[#] Sun Nov 23 2008 23:39:03 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Are there any hypervirtualization environments that Windows will cooperate with (HyperV doesn't count) right now?

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 00:24:47 EST from Bryon Roche @ Uncensored

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the vmware people or IBM is your best bet there. I know IBM's had something to let you run at list win2k on their POWER mainframes forever...

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 00:25:19 EST from Bryon Roche @ Uncensored

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did I say POWER, I think I meant s/390, but i think they did that for their power boxes, too.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 07:18:38 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I'm so lost.

Here, in the Programming room, when I see 'UML', I can only think of the Unified Modeling Language.

But, I think you guys are talking about the User Mode Linux.



[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 08:20:52 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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KVM is an equally unfortunate choice of acronym. KVM= Keyboard, Video, Mouse (switch.)

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 08:22:16 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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biggest problem with virtualbox: if a VM is running, my laptop crashes instead of going to sleep.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 08:38:58 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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ahh, they claim this is already fixed for the next major release.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 09:22:28 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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When you guys typed 'KVM', I was actually thinking of Keyboard, Video, Mouse... figures I didn't quite get what you're talking about.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 09:27:56 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Nov 23 2008 11:02pm from Bryon Roche @uncnsrd
What if the hypercall is implemented with the same API as a hardware
interface? I like the way KVM goes with that..


A hypercall is not an emulated interface. A hypercall is a hypercall, and it requires fewer CPU cycles.

[#] Mon Nov 24 2008 09:38:40 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Ford, did you play with russian dolls as a kid? You did, didn't you?


you know? I forgot about those.

[#] Tue Dec 09 2008 07:30:21 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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[#] Tue Dec 09 2008 10:00:25 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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That hurts.

[#] Thu Dec 11 2008 00:25:21 EST from isoroku @ Uncensored

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I'm not aware of Win2k ever running on the POWER boxes. The current set of POWER boxes can do Linux, AIX and i/OS.

[#] Thu Dec 11 2008 09:40:27 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Didn't they have some sort of weird daughterboard with an x86 chip on it that could run 'doze?

[#] Thu Dec 11 2008 12:05:46 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the ppc branch died with nt4 and was dug out again for the XBox2

(as did the mips & alpha branch)



[#] Thu Dec 11 2008 14:45:05 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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xbox2 isn't WinCE?

[#] Thu Dec 11 2008 18:17:11 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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don't think so, wince just has an arm port plus x86 afaik.

the mipsel port was dropped way back in 2k3



[#] Thu Dec 11 2008 19:34:10 EST from isoroku @ Uncensored

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IG, you are right, I forgot about those boxes. IXS (Integrated Xseries Server).
It was a PC that was connected to the server by an IOP. The Xseries system ran windoze, but on an actual intel proc.

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