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[#] Mon Dec 15 2014 11:37:55 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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and it would have worked, too, if it weren't for those pesky kids.

[#] Mon Dec 15 2014 17:37:04 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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In the United States we have our own Government Repair Kit.
It's called the 2nd Amendment (Right to Keep and Bear Arms).

That sounds a lot like the "four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty"

[#] Tue Dec 16 2014 18:37:00 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's so much fun to see Hollywood and North Korea at war with each other!

One is a communist regime ... and the other is a backwards country in Asia.

[#] Tue Dec 16 2014 19:19:45 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I was living in the very liberal Palm Beach in 2008. The owner of a white supremest website which was
headquarted in the city wanted Obama to win. He figured two things would happen, 1) the country would move
closer to a socialist society with Obama's policies and 2) Obama would screw up so bad that race relations would
get worse causing the white supremacy movement to grow.

[#] Wed Dec 17 2014 09:39:01 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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That sounds similar to the reasons I kinda wanted to see Pat Robertson win when he ran for President.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 11:32:52 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Anyway, I thought we covered this stuff years ago. We don't hate
Obama because he's black. Only a racist would even consider thinking


So then why talk about him as if you do. It's YOU who constantly use labels like "Kenyan" (as if it's a dirty word) and regurgitate the birther trope--which is, yes, racist--why else would you be all like "ZOMG, I can't believe this guy is American-born because he looks funny."

If you were actually serious about all the shit you spew (and I know you aren't) it would be disgusting and sad. So then why spew it.

I have a thin fuse this week/month because of the racist shit in the news & some other personal considerations, but seriously, IT'S THE FUCKING HOLIDAY SEASON, FUCKING CHEER UP AND STOP SPEWING HATE OR I WILL CHASE YOU WITH A SNOWBLOWER!!!! :-)

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 12:50:15 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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I have a thin fuse this week/month because of the racist shit in the


Loanshark:
To what, specifically, do you refer when you say "because of the racist shit in the news"?

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 16:30:11 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Dec 18 2014 9:50am from vince-q @cascade

I have a thin fuse this week/month because of the racist shit in the



Loanshark:
To what, specifically, do you refer when you say "because of the
racist shit in the news"?



Again, Loanshark - please answer the question.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2014 15:40:45 EST from @

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President Obama on Friday downplayed the potential benefits of the Keystone pipeline, claiming it would not lower gas prices for Americans but instead boost Canadian oil companies.

http://feeds.foxnews.com/~r/foxnews/politics/~3/MUXeEDMyWok/


[#] Fri Dec 19 2014 16:40:08 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Dec 19 2014 12:40pm from @cascade in >
Subject: Obama says Keystone pipeline mostly helps Canadian oil companies,
not Americans
President Obama on Friday downplayed the potential benefits of the
Keystone pipeline, claiming it would not lower gas prices for
Americans but instead boost Canadian oil companies.


...which just goes toward proving that Obama has nary a clue on how markets work.

1. Keystone Pipeline boosts sales of Canadian oil (true).
2. #1 means more supply on the world market

Now it really is simple to understand.
More oil on the market means lower prices for oil.
Lower prices for oil results in lowering the price for gasoline about a month later.

Basic economics in play here.
I guess he didn't learn this in that Ivy League university.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 12:36:46 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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We don't believe he's American-born because he HAS NOT PRODUCED A LEGITIMATE LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

Your assertion that it's "the way he looks" that causes our suspicion of his origins makes YOU the racist. It's derivative of the broader assertion of "there are no legitimate criticisms of Barack Hussein Obama; all criticisms must therefore be racist"

I AM A BONA FIDE "BIRTHER" AND PROUD OF IT. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS NOT BORN IN THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY; IT IS THE oBJECTIVE TRUTH. (Deliberate use of a lower case "o" there to assert that Ayn Rand is still a piece of shit.)

[#] Sat Dec 20 2014 08:36:22 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, I did say they were terrible in different, yet oddly similar, ways.

Primarily, I think neither of them are very good leaders in general. They rely entirely too much on other people to tell them what to do. Neither of them had a particularly great amount of experience before taking on the presidency, and I think our country has suffered as a consequence.

I won't speculate as to whether one guy or the other loved the country more or less... everyone has their own ideas of what makes a country great, weak, or whatever, and not everyone will agree with those ideas.

I think both Republicans and Democrats, in general, seek to do things with this country that run counter to what made this country particularly wonderful and amazing, so I don't really like either of them. Republicans would have us all owned by corporations and religions. They seek to concentrate power to a very few, which as a general concept I despise. Democrats would have us all give everything we've worked for to people who have no idea what to do with it, without providing any training or assistance in the matter. They strike me as a kind of Robin Hood without any sense of responsibility or true, honest concern for the people they're supposedly helping.

On the plus side, Republicans generally try to maintain fiscally sound policies.
Or at least pay lip service to it, even though I feel Reagan helped teach them how to spend irresponsibly. And Democrats do manage to correct certain civil rights issues that I feel we should correct if we want to truly be a fair and free country.

But, left to their own devices, an extreme Republican will turn us into a fascist state (except owned by corporations instead of the state), and the Democrats will turn us into a socialist state, even though we already have proof that doesn't work.

[#] Sat Dec 20 2014 16:12:57 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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And that's fine, I've just had enough of having the observation of "Obama is un-American because he identifies, sympathizes, and collaborates with our enemies more than with Americans" being countered by liberals who say "you just think Obama is un-American because he's black."

Again, it's a kafkatrap and deserves to be immediately and fully dismissed whenever and wherever it is encountered.

The population of this planet is over seven billion. Nearly six billion of us are humans. Reading racial bias into places where it does not exist is just as bad as actually exhibiting racial bias. But the libs need to keep racism alive because [race|class|gender|etc] envy is a play straight out of the Marxist handbook.

I can't believe we still have to cover this in 2014. Fact: Obama is a socialist piece of shit. Fact: Obama is black. Fact: the previous two facts HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 15:27:30 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


Didn't we cover this a zillion times already? Anyone even remotely skilled in graphics can look at the PDF and see the multiple layers, which is a dead giveaway that they forgot to push "flatten image" after doctoring it up.

[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 05:26:07 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Personally, I think black is the best thing about Obama. 

I mean, if he were actually representative of any American black community. Being that he's Kenyan (not referring to place of birth because that's a whole other kettle of fish - referring to the fact that his African roots are from Kenyan Muslims and not from African Americans who have lived in the US for any length of time) and doesn't in any way share the standard African American experience... it's not really a vote for him. 

He didn't grow up in the US, he took the highest office in the US with very little experience. He does not value the US constitution. He kowtows to Muslim countries while shunning America's allies. 

He totally wussed out on the Ukraine issue, made a mockery of America. The list goes on and on...

He's done cocaine. He still smokes.

His color is about the only thing I don't think is wrong with him.
 



[#] Fri Dec 19 2014 15:49:24 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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W

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 15:00:34 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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This is just a bullshit talking point. Certified by the state of Hawaii. End of story.

I guess what I am trying to say is this: SHAME ON YOU. I don't know how you can sleep at night.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2014 16:28:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The point is that it doesn't matter. Bush isn't in office. Neither is Clinton, Reagan, Hoover, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Lincoln, etc. etc. etc.

I expect the "Blame Bush" rhetoric from a yeasty cunt like Nancy Pelosi.
I don't expect it from someone as smart and honest as you.

George W was an incompetent buffoon. But I never doubted for a minute that he loved his country and genuinely wanted to do the right thing. I might even say the same thing about Bill (but not Hitlery) Clinton. This is far more than one can say about Barack Hitler Hussein Hitler Obama, who overtly hates America and is actively working to destroy it. Not only is he a communist and a terrorist and an illegal immigrant, but he's also a bona fide sociopath.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2014 21:52:52 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I still feel Bush == Obama. They are both terrible presidents, but in different (yet oddly similar) ways.

Neither were leaders. Both were followers masquerading as leaders.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2014 18:49:49 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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IG

Why are messages that I post in the Politica> room at Cascade not all making it into this room?

I certainly do not for an instant think *you* are deleting them, but I cannot say the same of some folk that may have <A>ide privs.

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