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[#] Wed Nov 05 2014 09:04:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I gave up on the LP in 2010 when the Tea Party movement gave true libertarians a voice in mainstream politics.

Here in the People's Republic of New York it was pretty obvious that Comrade Cuomo was going to bring in an easy win. That's why Astorino ran in the first place: he's still got two years left in his term as Westchester county executive so it didn't have to be a risky move.

B. Hitler Obama has already announced that he will simply ignore Congress and implement his agenda by executive order [http://tinyurl.com/pmpkrfk].
I think he should run for a third term.

[#] Wed Nov 05 2014 11:24:17 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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B. Hitler Obama has already announced that he will simply ignore
Congress and implement his agenda by executive order
[http://tinyurl.com/pmpkrfk].
I think he should run for a third term.



In Jan 2017, the new Republican president can un-do every single executive order with one of his own. That is simultaneously the good, *and* precarious, nature of executive orders as opposed to legislation.

And along the way - who knows? Hitler Hussein may actually write one that is illegal. I view this as extremely likely. And that, coupled with the felonious acts he's already managed to commit, will leave him square in the sights of the new Republican attorney general in 2017 for prosecution. That of course will not really happen. "We don't prosecute former presidents." And that might actually be a good thing since if we got into the practice of doing that it would really discourage good people from seeking the office.

Besides, prison terms end. A terrible legacy is eternal.

Bill Clinton: Fornicator-in-Chief
Barack Obama: Asshole-in-Chief; Traitor Emeritus

And just what if, after he's gone, the proof actually emerges that he is not a "native born citizen" but naturalized, and hence served illegally as POTUS.

In that eventuality a very good case could be made that every presidential document carrying his signature is null and void on its face since he did not legally have the authority so to act.

Fascinating... Just think of the horrid things *that* would un-do!!

[#] Wed Nov 05 2014 14:15:08 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well, that's why he should run for a third term:

1. He won't win because he's so unpopular now
2. So what if he's not eligible for a third term? As a Kenyan native he wasn't eligible for the first two.

And let's not assume that the 2016 election is "in the bag" for the GOP.
The establishment RINOs are going to work as hard as they can to find a candidate who will lose to Hitlery Cunton. Jeb Bush comes to mind. Or maybe another Mormon so they can ensure that most of the evangelical/protestant/catholic set stays home instead of voting (that's what scuttled 2012, dontcha know).

What would absolutely guarantee a 2016 victory? It's easy. All they have to do is run a true conservative. The establishment RINO types keep getting in the way, and we need to put a stop to it. The choices are Tea Party and Socialism. Anything in between swings to Socialism by default.

[#] Wed Nov 05 2014 21:58:37 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I blame Reagan for teaching republicans to spend money like democrats.

I blame Bush (Shrub) for teaching democrats that they can use executive orders to circumvent Congress.

And I blame all of them for caring less about our country and more about themselves.

[#] Thu Nov 06 2014 09:28:34 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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A pox on them all.

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 11:03:33 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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In two days, on Sunday November 9, we here at Cascade Lodge will be exceptionally happy to be joining with our friends online in Deutschland to commemorate and celebrate the 25th Anniversary of the opening of the Berlin Wall and the beginning of the long post-war German Dream of Viedervereinigung!!

Viel Glueck fuer die kommenden Jahre!!

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 11:05:21 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Spelling Error! Please excuse the "V".
Obviously that should be "Wiedervereinigung"... <red-faced - obviously>

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 11:07:37 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Question for you Germans out there....

"Ich bin ein Berliner" (JFK, 1963)
In my high school German class back in '63 my instructor made a huge deal out of "Kennedy didn't even know he was claiming to be a jelly pastry."

Is that true? Is "ein Berliner" a pastry in Germany? Or is that just a huge myth?

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 11:42:39 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Google translate says it is "I am a Berliner". Berliner or Berliner Pfannkuchen is a doughnut.

Source: Google/wikipedia

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 11:44:53 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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From pastries back to politics.

What do people think of Instant Runoff Voting? (aka ranked choice voting)

I think it would be great except the American people can barely handing the voting system we have now, this
would only confuse them more.

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 12:53:14 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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What do people think of Instant Runoff Voting? (aka ranked choice voting)


I'm lukewarm. The game theory of it shows that it can produce perverse results, in which arguably the person who is nobody's preference, wins anyway.

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 14:53:42 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, yes, in the whole rest of germany, a Berliner references s.th. like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_%28doughnut%29

however in Berlin itself its called Pfannekuchen and you will probably get angry looks and no goods if you demand a Berliner in the bakery over there.



[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 15:49:29 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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One could only think that JFK, with all his classical education and alleged smarts, should have simply said "Ich stamme aus Berlin" which would never have had the infamous "pastry ambiguity" (hah! a potential Big Bang Theory episode title!).

--K2NE

[#] Sat Nov 08 2014 09:43:32 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I'm lukewarm. The game theory of it shows that it can produce perverse
results, in which arguably the person who is no body's preference, wins
anyway.


I don't know if I really like that the person who has the lowest votes gets eliminated and their votes go to the
next person ranked above them. I understand it but I don't know if it is truly a good idea.

What is nice is it eliminates the least voted person from winning. In 1992 there were more total votes for Bush
Sr. and Ross Perot than there were for Clinton, but Clinton had the most votes of any one candidate.
Clinton (44,909,806 43.0%)
Bush 39,104,550 (37.4%)
Perot 19,743,821 (18.9%)
Marrou 290,087 (0.3%)
More people voted against Clinton than for him.
(Source Wikipedia)

Same with 2000 if you add Gore and Nader's votes together it would have beaten Bush.

The biggest problem I see with this is education of the public, people barely understand the current system.

[#] Sat Nov 08 2014 12:01:34 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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There is no "upside" to any method that would *ever* manage to elect *any* Clinton to *any* office anywhere, at any time, for any reason.

clinton == evil

[#] Sat Nov 08 2014 13:44:22 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The biggest problem I see with this is education of the public, people barely understand the current system.

The biggest problem with the current system is that we give these positions to people who want them.



[#] Sun Nov 09 2014 20:23:32 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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If I'm not mistaken, Burlington Vermont tried ranked-choice aka Insant Runoff Voting, it got weird, and they abandoned it.

http://www.uvm.edu/~vlrs/IRVassessment.pdf

"In essence what IRV is, is an attempt to use a technological fix to solve a political problem."

[#] Mon Nov 10 2014 08:01:44 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I knew Burlington used it, I didn't know they stopped using it, but Burlington is pretty weird.

[#] Mon Nov 10 2014 10:20:41 EST from rss @

Subject: Obama wants ban on Internet 'fast lane' deals

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President Barack Obama says Internet providers shouldn't be allowed to cut deals with online services like Netflix, Amazon or YouTube to move their content faster.

http://feeds.foxnews.com/~r/foxnews/politics/~3/prwv01G0G6Q/


[#] Mon Nov 10 2014 12:49:47 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Nov 10 2014 7:20am from rss @cascade in >
Subject: Obama wants ban on Internet 'fast lane' deals
President Barack Obama says Internet providers shouldn't be allowed
to cut deals with online services like Netflix, Amazon or YouTube to
move their content faster.

http://feeds.foxnews.com/~r/foxnews/politics/~3/prwv01G0G6Q/


Strange.
Obama said this.
And I agree with it.
Weird...

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