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[#] Wed Oct 30 2013 17:25:47 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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[#] Sun Nov 03 2013 11:53:39 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yikes. Government contractors getting paid by KLOC, most likely ... and as tends to happen with government contractors, we once again have a million dollar toilet that can't even flush. (And the toilet is a good analogy in many other ways, of course: fill in your own "full of shit" pun here.)

[#] Sun Nov 03 2013 20:21:27 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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By way of comparison....

Back in 2008 me and a friend decided to establish a NetK2NE (ISP) presence out here in California.

We decided to create two new subsidiaries - ChicoConnect and Forest Ranch Internet, and set up domains for each.

We wanted a web site for prospective customers where they would:

1) input their name and address, specifically to include street address (physical) and ZIP-code.
2) from that data, we would then bring the prospective customer to a page where all available speeds for DSL service would be presented, along with the cost for each (monthly, quarterly, or full year options), with a check box next to each option.
3) there was a "continue" button at the bottom of the page.
4) next, the prospective customer would be presented with an Order Confirmation page where we collected credit card info or "Pay using PAYPAL" as an option.
5) the customer would fill in the credit card info OR select Paypal.
6) if PAYPAL they would enter their Paypal email address and a second window would open onto their PAYPAL account for them to enter their PAYPAL password and proceed through Paypal's process to complete payment.
7) if they were using their own card, it would simply go to our merchant account (also through Paypal) and complete the payment process.
8) the customer would then get a Payment Confirmation page, with an order number, an installation date, and complete contact information for our office.

Sound familiar? Yup. Just like the ObamaScare "website" should work.

Total man hours to build our site: roughly 20
Testing time: about 3 days
Result: worked flawlessly from "day one."

The difference? We knew what we were doing, how to do it, and wrote the entire site using RAW HTML CODE (no bloat-ridden "code generators") with CGI-BIN where appropriate using mostly PERL on the linux back-end.

The website interfaced with the appropriate DSL wholesale vendor(s) depending on the customer ZIP-code.

Bada-Bing! Done!!
What's so hard???!!!???

[#] Mon Nov 04 2013 13:43:48 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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You were not trying to collapes the system and screw people over. That is the difference. You care, the
government doesn't.

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 10:32:18 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I am dreading the day coming in the next couple of weeks when I hear about just how much my plan's costs are increasing next year. Health care was expensive already; it's going to be even more expensive now that it's free.

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 11:10:24 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Hey, my plan was terminated. I know several people's plans that were terminated. I should be glad, on the new
plan gynecological exams are included... which would be neato if I had a vagina.

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 12:36:15 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Perhaps the new plan comes with a vagina as well. Or perhaps Sandra Slut Fluke will let you use hers.

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 15:12:46 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 18:02:20 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ugh.

I don't have any use for one of those.

[#] Sun Nov 10 2013 09:05:08 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

Subject: HOW TO COMMUNICATE IF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN THE INTERNET

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Scenario: Your government is displeased with the communication going on in your location and pulls the plug on your internet access, most likely by telling the major ISPs to turn off service.

This is what happened in Egypt Jan. 25 prompted by citizen protests, with sources estimating that the Egyptian government cut off approximately 88 percent of the country's internet access. What do you do without internet? Step 1: Stop crying in the corner. Then start taking steps to reconnect with your network. Here’s a list of things you can do to keep the communication flowing.

NOTE: If you have advice to add, please add your comments.

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PREVENTIVE MEASURES:

MAKE YOUR NETWORK TANGIBLE

Print out your contact list, so your phone numbers aren’t stuck in the cloud. Some mail services like Gmail allow you to export your online contact list in formats that are more conducive to paper, such as CSV or Vcard, and offer step-by-step guides on how to do this.

BROADCAST ON THE RADIO:

CB Radio: Short for "Citizens Band" radio, these two-way radios allow communication over short distances on 40 channels. You can pick one up for about $20 to $50 at Radio Shack, and no license is required to operate it.

Ham radio: To converse over these radios, also known as "amateur radios," you have to obtain an operator's license from the FCC. Luckily, other Wired How-To contributors have already explained exactly what you need to do to get one and use it like a pro. However, if the President declares a State of Emergency, use of the radio could be extremely restricted or prohibited.

GMRS: The General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) is a licensed land-mobile FM UHF radio service in the United States available for short-distance two-way communication. It is intended for use by an adult individual who possesses a valid GMRS license, as well as his or her immediate family members... They are more expensive than the walkie talkies typically found in discount electronics stores, but are higher quality.

Family Radio Service: The Family Radio Service (FRS) is an improved walkie talkie radio system authorized in the United States since 1996. This personal radio service uses channelized frequencies in the ultra high frequency (UHF) band. It does not suffer the interference effects found on citizens' band (CB) at 27 MHz, or the 49 MHz band also used by cordless phones, toys, and baby monitors.

Microbroadcasting: Microbroadcasting is the process of broadcasting a message to a relatively small audience. This is not to be confused with low-power broadcasting. In radio terms, it is the use of low-power transmitters to broadcast a radio signal over the space of a neighborhood or small town. Similarly to pirate radio, microbroadcasters generally operate without a license from the local regulation body, but sacrifice range in favor of using legal power limits.

Packet Radio Back to the '90s: There do exist shortwave packet-radio modems. These are also excruciatingly slow, but may get your e-mail out. Like ham radio above it requires a ham radio license because they operate on ham radio frequencies.

TELEPHONE:

Set up a phone tree: According to the American Association of University Women, a phone tree is "a prearranged, pyramid-shaped system for activating a group of people by telephone" that can "spread a brief message quickly and efficiently to a large number of people." Dig out that contact list you printed out to spread the message down your pyramid of contacts.

Enable Twitter via SMS: Though the thought of unleashing the Twitter fire hose in your text message inbox may seem horrifying, it would be better than not being able to connect to the outside world at all. The Twitter website has full instructions on how to redirect tweets to your phone.

Call to Tweet: A small team of engineers from Twitter, Google and SayNow, a company Google acquired recently, made this idea a reality. It’s already live and anyone can tweet by simply leaving a voicemail on one of these international phone numbers (+16504194196 or +390662207294 or +97316199855) and the service will instantly tweet the message using the hashtag #egypt. No Internet connection is required. People can listen to the messages by dialing the same phone numbers or going to the Twitter account, speak2tweet.

Alex Jones and infowars.com have a telephone number for people to listen to his radio show by phone, in case the internet goes down, or if you don't have internet. The phone in listen line is 512-646-5000.

FAX:

If you need to quickly send and receive documents with lengthy or complex instructions, phone conversations may result in misunderstandings, and delivering the doc by foot would take forever. Brush the dust off that bulky old machine, establish a connection by phone first with the recipient to make sure his machine is hooked up, then fax away.

You may not need a fax machine to send or receive faxes if your computer has a dial-up fax application.

NON-VIRTUAL BULLETIN BOARD

Sometimes we get so wrapped up in the virtual world that we forget about resources available in the real world. Physical bulletin boards have been used for centuries to disseminate information and don't require electricity to function. If you are fortunate enough to be getting information from some other source why not share it with your friends and neighbors with your own bulletin board? Cork, magnetic and marker bulletin boards are as close as your nearest dime store and can be mounted just about anywhere. And if push comes to shove you can easily make your own with scrap wood lying around the house.

Getting back onlineWhile it might be relatively easy for a government to cut connections by leveraging the major ISPs, there are some places they wouldn't get to so readily, like privately-owned networks and independent ISPs.

FIND THE PRIVATELY RUN ISPs

In densely populated areas, especially in central business districts and city suburbs there are multiple home WiFi networks overlapping each other, some secure, some not. If there is no internet, open up your WiFi by removing password protection: If enough people do this it's feasible to create a totally private WiFi service outside government control covering the CBD, and you can use applications that run Bonjour (iChat on Mac for example) to communicate with others on the open network and send and receive documents. **needs more clarification

If you are a private ISP, it's your time to shine. Consider allowing open access to your Wi-Fi routers to facilitate communication of people around you until the grid is back online.

RETURN TO DIAL-UP

According to an article in the BBC about old tech's role in the Egyptian protests, "Dial-up modems are one of the most popular routes for Egyptians to get back online. Long lists of international numbers that connect to dial-up modems are circulating in Egypt thanks to net activists We Re-Build, Telecomix and others."

Dial-up can be slow. Often, there is a lightweight mobile version of a site that you can load from your desktop browser quickly despite the limitations of dial-up. Examples: mobile.twitter.com, m.facebook.com, m.gmail.com.

AD-HOC NETWORKING

Most wireless routers, PCs, laptops, and even some ultramobile devices like cellphones have the ability to become part of an "ad hoc" network, where different "nodes" (all of the devices on the network) share the responsibility of transmitting data with one another. These networks can become quite large, and are often very easy to set up. If used properly by a tech-savvy person, such networks can be used to host temporary websites and chat rooms. There are many internet tutorials on the internet for ad hoc networking, so feel free to google some.

Apple computers tend to have very accessible ad hoc functionality built in, including a pre-installed chat client (iChat) that will automatically set up an ad hoc "Rendezvous" chatroom among anybody on the network, without the need for an external service like AIM or Skype. Ad hoc network-hosting functionality is built in to the Wi-Fi menu.

Windows computers have several third-party ad hoc chat applications available (such as Trillian) and setting up an ad hoc Wi-Fi network is almost as simple as on a Mac.

Linux operating systems, of course, have plenty of third-party apps available, and most distros have ad hoc network-creation support built in.

BUILD LARGE BRIDGED WIRELESS NETWORK

Using popular wireless access point devices like a Linksys WRT54G, you can create a huge wireless bridged network -- effectively creating a Local Area Network (LAN), or a private Internet that can be utilized by all users within range using a Wi-Fi enabled device.

You can also link multiple devices together wirelessly, extending the range of your network. Most access points will cover a 100 meter area and if your wireless device is built to support the 802.11n wireless standard, you will get almost a 500 meter coverage area for each access point.

To build a wireless bridge, check out the dd-wrt wiki, and learn how to configure Linksys WRT54G as a wireless client using this Anandtech thread.

NINTENDO DS

A used DS family device can be purchased inexpensively. In addition to wi-fi, the DS supports its own wireless protocols. Using Pictochat, it is possible to chat with nearby DS users without having any DS games. Unfortunately, the range is quite short.

Some games, such as the fourth generation Pokemon games, support mail items. Thus you can send your message under the guise of just playing a game. Mail items can be sent through the Internet if you can get on the net and you and your partner(s) have each other's friend codes.

The original DS and the DS Lite do support the Opera web browser, but finding the game card and memory pack may be very difficult. Starting with the DSi, Opera is downloadable.

INTRANET

Your computer has the ability to set up your own INTRANET. This was done BEFORE the internet was popularized in two ways: Your computer dialed up other computers and sent them the contents of a message board, or local people people dialed into your computer. A nationwide system can be set up this way with a central location sending to many cities then each city sending out the info locally.

BECOME UNTRACEABLE

If you're going to post government secrets on your work-around site, you may want to set up an untraceable account. Really, you only need a mail drop, an assumed name, a prepaid credit card you can get at many stores to set up service.

GET SATELLITE ACCESS

You can have very, very slow internet if you have something similiar to an Iridium phone, which would allow you to do dial up at 2400 baud, which at least gives you e-mail. This will also work when your government has shut down GSM and telephone access, and will work pretty much anywhere on the planet. If you're in the right place, get yourself KA-SAT access which is satellite broadband and will not be routed through any internet exchange that certain local governments may monitor or block (unless that government is part of EU or er ... Uncle Sam.

BACK TO BASICS

Make some noise: Have an air horn or other loud instrument handy. It may just come down to being able to alert people in your local geographic area, who would otherwise be unaware of an emergency. You may also want to learn a bit about Morse code and have a cheat sheet available.

See more at: http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_30144.php#sthash.rpJWI9Tp.dpuf



[#] Mon Nov 11 2013 11:16:53 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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*This* is where the image is suppose to be.

 

For the fine people using the text client, shh, or telnet
http://palmbeachpravda.com/images/nobrains.jpg

 

 

 



[#] Sat Nov 16 2013 00:33:07 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Vince-q:

For the dial-up route, what about going back to basics like Fidonet.  Of course that would assume there are enough devices that still have a modem in them, or could work like a modem - e.g. an app on the phone that acted like a modem during a voice call and allowed you to contact your local fidonet node.  Of course given the forum, it would be a local Citadel bbs that then handed off to a local fidonet or UUCP node :-)

For the "it may never get delivered" route.  It might be possible in the future to set up some sort of delay tolerant networks and have them lay dormant most of the time - some work has been done on doing this with packet radio with some success (but also many bugs to be worked out)

http://www.dtnrg.org/wiki/AX25ConnectedModeConvergenceLayer



[#] Sat Nov 16 2013 10:43:09 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

Subject: "Et Modem Verbum Factus Est"

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Fri Nov 15 2013 21:33:07 PST from ax25 @ Uncensored

Vince-q:

For the dial-up route, what about going back to basics like Fidonet.  Of course that would assume there are enough devices that still have a modem in them, or could work like a modem - e.g. an app on the phone that acted like a modem during a voice call and allowed you to contact your local fidonet node.  Of course given the forum, it would be a local Citadel bbs that then handed off to a local fidonet or UUCP node :-)

For the "it may never get delivered" route.  It might be possible in the future to set up some sort of delay tolerant networks and have them lay dormant most of the time - some work has been done on doing this with packet radio with some success (but also many bugs to be worked out)

ax25:

Interesting thoughts and ideas. Looking for a word here... ah, yes.... retro. ;)

We (Alan Bowen and I) considered "piggy-backing" Citadel inter-node email via FidoNet back in 1986 or so. We decided that Citadel could handle that internally without depending on "someone else" to do it. Most of the code was already in Citadel:K2NE (which was also compatible with Citadel-86 from the Minneapolis group). The trick was the routing code. We did not want email getting sent "broadcast mode" to every Citadel on the network, so we had to devise a method where the email header would carry routing "hooks" which would determine which (intermediate) Citadel nodes would get mail to store and forward onto final destination or other intermediate nodes. We hacked at this for quite a number of days until it just "automagically" started working *exactly* as desired. That, if I remember correctly, was the "Big Deal" about bumping the Major Revision number of Citadel:K2NE from v5.x to v6.x (Freakdog may want to refresh my memory on this - and no, Freakie, that was *not* the Big Deal for the release of V7.0 !!). Keep in mind, here, that Citadel:K2NE ran solely in a DOS environment - linux was nonexistent; UUCP a hit or miss and sometimes expensive proposition; "Coherent" (a proprietary Unix look-alike) was the only affordable alternative and it supported UUCICO via telephone and TCP/IP not at all. The World As We Know It Today was only barely beginning to take form. Citadel on a Unix box existed (Quartz BBS at Rutgers in New Brunswick NJ and a few others running that code - ask David Pirmann for the details - he's still kicking around on Face"book"...).

As to delay-tolerant networks, I do believe that SMTP has a settable parameter for that (at the system of origin for the particular email), the default being 8 hours. I am not sure if there is an "upper bound" on that setting, but it is much worth a look-see. Not sure if you can set that parameter if you are a relay, however. These days most folks have relaying turned off anyway, but in a "post apocalyptic" (Leibowitzian) environment that would be the LAST thing you'd want to do!

Oh well, enough for now... I'm meandering..... :-)

--Vince (K2NE)



[#] Sat Nov 16 2013 23:02:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: "Et Modem Verbum Factus Est"

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existed (Quartz BBS at Rutgers in New Brunswick NJ and a few others
running that code - ask David Pirmann for the details - he's still

And the pack of lies that Pirmann and his buddies will give you is pretty consistent. QuartzBBS was a badly done fork of my Citadel code from the early 1990's. ISCA was too, even though they insisted it was a "complete rewrite" but when the source was released a decade and a half later I browsed through it and found giant swaths of code from Citadel/UX 3.x still in there.

*All* of them deleted the license instead of honoring it.

[#] Sat Nov 16 2013 23:24:50 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Sat Nov 16 2013 20:02:38 PST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: "Et Modem Verbum Factus Est"
existed (Quartz BBS at Rutgers in New Brunswick NJ and a few others
running that code - ask David Pirmann for the details - he's still

And the pack of lies that Pirmann and his buddies will give you is pretty consistent. QuartzBBS was a badly done fork of my Citadel code from the early 1990's. ISCA was too, even though they insisted it was a "complete rewrite" but when the source was released a decade and a half later I browsed through it and found giant swaths of code from Citadel/UX 3.x still in there.

*All* of them deleted the license instead of honoring it.

Oh, the stories I could tell, but this is not the forum.

Suffice it to say, IG, that you will not be disputed by me on these points. Nor does anything you just wrote surprise me.



[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 09:14:03 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Sat Nov 16 2013 11:24:50 PM EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS Subject: Re: "Et Modem Verbum Factus Est"

 

Sat Nov 16 2013 20:02:38 PST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: "Et Modem Verbum Factus Est"
existed (Quartz BBS at Rutgers in New Brunswick NJ and a few others
running that code - ask David Pirmann for the details - he's still

And the pack of lies that Pirmann and his buddies will give you is pretty consistent. QuartzBBS was a badly done fork of my Citadel code from the early 1990's. ISCA was too, even though they insisted it was a "complete rewrite" but when the source was released a decade and a half later I browsed through it and found giant swaths of code from Citadel/UX 3.x still in there.

*All* of them deleted the license instead of honoring it.

Oh, the stories I could tell, but this is not the forum.

Suffice it to say, IG, that you will not be disputed by me on these points. Nor does anything you just wrote surprise me.

FWIW...from what I've been told, QuartzBBS is no longer running Citadel (C) code, but has been rewritten in Perl, talking to some sort of SQL backend database.



[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 12:32:45 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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FWIW...from what I've been told, QuartzBBS is no longer running
Citadel (C) code, but has been rewritten in Perl, talking to some
sort of SQL backend database.


You are missing nothing at all.
The usership is sparce.
The messaging is virtually nonexistent.
That, however, is an **improvement** over the "QuartzBBS of years gone by" which was, ultimately, the intellectual toilet-bowl of the internet. The stench of that, somehow, lingers at the current "incarnation."

And then there's the issue of... oh well, not going there.

[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 12:42:45 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I believe there was a Citadelx86 called "The Toilet", it was the bastard step brother of other citadel BBSes in the area and didn't offer anything more than the other BBSes.  



[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 14:38:04 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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zooer wrote:
I believe there was a Citadelx86 called "The Toilet",

Citadel86... toilet... saying the same thing twice... ;)

[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 15:41:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The discussion of the Ghosts Of Crappy Citadel Ripoffs Past has been moved to the cleverly named "Pyrite" room.

See you there! :)

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