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[#] Wed Jan 15 2003 22:30:35 EST from JackShot @ Haven BBS

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My cats have no outside habits. They don't go out (other than once each. One time my little one ran away for a week or so, and one day, I came home to find the back door open and my big one sitting in the doorway looking guilty)

[#] Wed Jan 15 2003 23:15:27 EST from WhitShadoSoCal @ Haven BBS

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Here's something else you might want to consider:

Saw the ad in Cat Fancy magazine.

[#] Sat Jan 18 2003 22:10:10 EST from mightbme @ Haven BBS

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I've heard several negative things about declawing, and once read a post about a persons cat being in pain long-term after declawing.

[#] Mon Feb 10 2003 14:11:47 EST from Elkins @ Haven BBS

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Just so you know, when a cat is declawed the claw is removed up to the first knuckle. And, if it's not removed far enough back, the claw can begin to grow back, hence causing inflamation, pain, etc. if you're gonna do it, I say be sure to go to a good vet, not some processing hack.

Personally, I couldn't do it to our babies. You might try a "scat mat" they give little electric shocks, perhaps double sided tape, or Green Apple makes a repellent that's organic and smells bad to the cat. I've tried the green apple on both cats and dogs and it seem s to work well. You might try alternatives too, like a scatching post with catnip (a sturdy one) where they habitually scratch, or training with our patented Aqueous Feline Deterant System!

For the AFDS go to walmart and buy a couple of those two for a dollar water / plant sprayers. Fill them up with water, dial them in to stream, and any time you catch your kitty doing something bad squirt the cr*p out of him. Be sure to include a verbal clue too, like NO in a deep threatening voice or his name in a reproving tone. This will help him learn that the voice = the water. Then later on, all you have to do is use the same tone and the cat leaves off whatever it was doing.

And, kitties do calm down as they age! :)

[#] Tue Feb 11 2003 10:45:12 EST from Mystee @ Dog Pound BBS II

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My dad had to put the family dog to sleep last night. I know this is particularly hard for them as well as for my little brother and sister as she was older than either of them, so they've never had life without the dog.

[#] Tue Feb 11 2003 13:55:59 EST from papa smurf @ Haven BBS

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That is allways sad, My dogs always live a long time. Losing each one of them was bad, that's why I don't have a dog today.

[#] Tue Feb 11 2003 19:21:34 EST from catwoman @ Haven BBS

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but the time you have with them is wonderful. Satin is getting old and I know it won't be long, but her time with us, has been wonderful.

[#] Thu Feb 20 2003 13:59:11 EST from Elkins @ Haven BBS

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I'm looking for input from any and everybody on a project I'm working on for pets and animals. If anyone has any ides or thoughts I'd love to hear them.

So here's the idea: I'm creating the Petwerk Netwerk where pet owners, rescuers, and just those wanting to know more can come together nationwide to find each other and learn more about their animals, training, care, rescuing, The idea started as a place for rescuers to go to get in touch nationswide with other rescuers, transports, breed rescues, shelters, etc. Of course, it's evolving to include much much more.
I want to be sure to cover fresh/salt water animals, rats, mice, rabbits, lizards, snakes, trantuals, gerbils, parrots, macaws everything! Even farm animals! If you have any animal ideas, any links, any resident experts in the field anything please let me know!! If you've seen sights like it, let me know! I want to do a lot of referring to many of the vast resovoirs on the web of breed info that I've found. And training, care, etc. But there is just no better substitute that people who have these animals as their companions, so I'd love your expertise!

[#] Thu Feb 20 2003 14:26:59 EST from ChuckE @ Haven BBS

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Are you wanting to use an already-created bulletin board website (like , , YahooGroups, or the like), or are you wanting to create one from scratch? Or would you like to set up your own Citadel, centering on your topic? I would think the tough part would be getting your site out there and known, unless you're really good at pointing search engines towards your site :)

[#] Thu Feb 20 2003 14:43:52 EST from Elkins @ Haven BBS

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Chuck, I figure the search engine thing will be pretty simple when I get to it. I'm seriously considering citadel since i came back to haven. I am more or leaning more toward tick off the check boxes of the groups you want to contact hit a button and you get a ready made mass email about your rescue. Also a foto gallery where people can identify breeds by sight instead of readying thru the breed standard, etc - I think that will especialy help in getting mixes and high mixes id'ed and into rescues. I know that a lot of info is already out there on the web, so i want to point people in the right directions too. And I know that a lot of rescue people communicate via yahoo groups so I'm thinking of linking to thoes too - lots or research to do compiling my info yeah.
I've worked at an ad agency and spouse does graphic design so publicity should be a no brainer for us... I'm thinking mass emails, postcards, letters, etc maybe on down the line some ads in magazines or the like... And of course linking through other sites I should hope...

[#] Thu Feb 20 2003 18:03:14 EST from ChuckE @ Haven BBS

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Sounds like you're well on the way, then! I haven't run a Citadel since the old DOS/modem daze... but Ian & Freakdog both run modern ones, and I'd consider them both helpful experts.

[#] Thu Feb 20 2003 18:04:48 EST from ChuckE @ Haven BBS

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Then again, a lot of the things you're talking about (the checkboxes, pics, etc.) are things that Cit's not very good at. Even places like Yahoo!Groups, MyFamily, etc., have voting polls, etc. I'm not sure of anything that automates e-mail based on poll responses though, but I'd imagine there must be something of that type out there.

[#] Tue Mar 04 2003 00:09:10 EST from Anonymous @ Haven BBS

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JAck, if you haven't done it yet...just have them declaw that front. Most vets don't do the back claws anymore. Don't worry about extended pain...'cause things will be fine. Scat mats work much better with kittens or cats that are slightly over a year or younger.

[#] Tue Jun 10 2003 14:39:54 EDT from Darwin @ Dog Pound BBS II

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[#] Sat Sep 13 2003 23:32:33 EDT from Mystee @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I have two Shih Tzus and one of them likes to talk. She will literally sit there and carry on a conversation with you. I was "talking" to her for about ten minutes the other night although I have no idea what I actually "said" to her, we seemed to come to some kind of agreement because she went and got her toy and dropped it in front of me. At one point I actually got her to howl. I didn't even know she could DO that. It was pretty funny. :)

[#] Mon Jan 19 2004 12:18:26 EST from Artee @ Haven BBS

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Mystee: I have a Basset Hound that I can get to howl by pretty much just looking at him. If I say anything to him, he'll run around like crazy. All he really wants is to lay on somebody's feet.

[#] Tue Jan 20 2004 18:05:11 EST from WhitShadoSoCal @ Haven BBS

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If you don't already do so, I must encourage everyone to read (or start reading) the comic strip "Get Fuzzy." :)

[#] Sun Feb 29 2004 15:56:29 EST from Artee @ Haven BBS

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Hey, I have a question about moving my cat:

I'm moving about 1,800 miles in May. I'm driving my daughter and two dogs out first by car and leaving them there with family, then driving back to get all my *stuff* in a truck to drive back.

How should I get my cat moved? I can crate her while driving, but it's about a 30 hour drive in the truck (25 or so by car) and she'll need to go to the bathroom I would assume (I would). She won't fit with us in the car trip so I want to have her crate up front with me in the truck. What's a safe, not too difficult way to get her there? Any hints? Thanks for any ideas.

[#] Mon Mar 01 2004 07:35:42 EST from papa smurf @ Haven BBS

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Ship Her my air.

[#] Mon Mar 01 2004 10:06:32 EST from Artee @ Haven BBS

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I might do that. At least it would be quicker for her. I have to see if it's very expensive. Thanks.

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