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[#] Sun Oct 27 2013 15:35:03 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Can't say that is the WORST song, Paradise By The Dashboard Lights is much worse.

[#] Sun Oct 27 2013 18:59:01 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm.

I've never heard One Headline by The Wallflowers.

Is it worse than this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_W--kjhEo

[#] Sun Oct 27 2013 19:05:04 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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There were no URL's in the previous message.

YES THERE IS!

[#] Sun Oct 27 2013 19:10:03 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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And if you watch that video any of the suggested videos are just as bad.

[#] Mon Oct 28 2013 05:25:32 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Oct 28 2013 05:44:01 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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btw, it features this instrument:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jW-QMl4Sgl0/TJuq9jGR_dI/AAAAAAAAAo8/TsKryVFJWG4/s1600/back.jpg

I saw it life on stage. It outperforms the amps easily.

on 300 m distance you still would hear the stahlofon loud & clear, while the guitars & rest would fade in volume.



[#] Sun Nov 10 2013 16:19:27 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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IG, you should get your choir group to sing this sometime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nxCfBWD4Q

[#] Sun Nov 10 2013 21:03:37 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Sun Nov 10 2013 13:19:27 PST from fleeb @ Uncensored

IG, you should get your choir group to sing this sometime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nxCfBWD4Q

Now that was one amazing piece of music. It's truly hard to believe it is "old" - those harmonies and progressions could easily have been written well into the Romantic period and not seemed out of place in the least.

Loved it!!



[#] Mon Nov 11 2013 07:41:00 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Carlo Gesualdo, possibly at his most extreme, chromatically. If you liked that, you might really like his Morro Lasso:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVPu71D8VI

[#] Mon Nov 11 2013 10:41:24 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Mon Nov 11 2013 04:41:00 PST from fleeb @ Uncensored

Carlo Gesualdo, possibly at his most extreme, chromatically. If you liked that, you might really like his Morro Lasso:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVPu71D8VI

Exceptional! Humbling!!

To think, after all my years, finding this makes me really admit that "there is nothing new under the sun" after all.

Replace the voices with a string orchestra and it could just as easily be from "Tristan und Isolde" or perhaps an "obscure corner" of the Gurrelieder or even the Mahler 5th.

I even heard hints of Leonard Bernstein in there.

They must really have hated this guy back in his day!



[#] Mon Nov 11 2013 18:09:39 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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The singers complained that his notes were not "in the hand" (referring to the Guidonian hand, from the solfeggio system):

http://educationcloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Typography-Music-reading
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But it didn't matter. Gesualdo hired his own singers to perform his music, and published his own music, as he was himself a prince (the prince of Venosa).


He had a very interesting life, but I've talked about him here several times before so for everyone else's benefit I'm avoiding the subject.


Critics of his music have described it as jarring, wild, completely unregulated, but it's far from that. In a lot of ways, his is the logical extension of polyphony taken to the outer limits. I think his contemporaries were beginning to explore the benefits of harmony, while he doggedly maintained an interest in polyphony. But, as a true master composer, he wanted to push boundaries... just a different set of boundaries from the other guys.

So, he focused on introducing chromatacism to his music. If you examine the score, you'll see at least one of the voices has a completely normal melodic line to it... no controversy to it whatsoever. But at the same time, at least one of the other voices will have some chromaticism going on... something outside the norm. I must confess, I'd love to understand better what might have been going on in his mind for the notes he chose.

I've heard that there were one or two other composers who, at the time, were influenced by him, but it's mostly modern composers who found him of particular interest. Schoenburg, in particular, found his music compelling, to the point of visiting the ruins of Castle Gesualdo, if I remember correctly.

[#] Mon Nov 11 2013 18:10:57 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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(I have long maintained an interest in early music, incidentally... I don't find the classics as interesting as early music, although I probably know more about the classics, heh).

[#] Mon Nov 11 2013 18:24:37 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Bah.. not Schoenburg, but Stravinsky. I keep getting those names mixed up in my head.

[#] Tue Nov 12 2013 00:15:51 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Music does bring people together.  Nice to see.



[#] Tue Nov 12 2013 00:22:29 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Mon Nov 11 2013 07:41:00 AM EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

Carlo Gesualdo, possibly at his most extreme, chromatically. If you liked that, you might really like his Morro Lasso:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVPu71D8VI

Fun Fleeb.  Kicks the pants off barbershop.  Thanks for sharing it with me.



[#] Tue Nov 12 2013 07:08:07 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Mon Nov 11 2013 15:24:37 PST from fleeb @ Uncensored

Bah.. not Schoenburg, but Stravinsky. I keep getting those names mixed up in my head.

You may not have *meant* Schoenberg, but there's more than a little hint of Verklaerte Nacht in those madrigals... ;)



[#] Tue Nov 12 2013 09:13:08 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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ax25:

I performed with a madrigal group while I was in college (did a lot of singing back then). We sang a lot of difficult music, and even took the opportunity to sing in some very nice churches in the UK in the Birmingham area.

We practiced some Gesualdo, but the group just couldn't quite manage it well enough for public performance. I had already (privately) practiced a couple of the parts for Morro Lasso, so I was familiar with his sound, but I think some of the other folks in the group couldn't quite wrap their mind around it, despite having performed other chromatic choral work.

To date, I have not had the opportunity to publically perform any of Gesualdo's music, despite having quite an appreciation for it.

vince-q:

I surely could have remained quiet and nobody would have known the difference.
Certainly, people have compared the two often enough.

When you feel up to it sometime, read about Gesualdo's life. Independantly wealthy, wielding moderate power as a lord, considered insane by many, and a peculiar relationship with death describes some of this man nicely.

[#] Wed Nov 13 2013 20:39:38 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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A long time ago, I recommended some music by Toby Twining Music that had some advanced vocal stylings. At the time, the music was not in print; you couldn't easily acquire a CD-ROM of their work.

It would seem they've embraced the digital age:

http://tobytwiningmusic.com/recordings/

[#] Thu Nov 14 2013 00:12:35 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The "Dylan and the Dead" Tour ???

Actually, when I hear "THE DEAD" are touring, I'm expecting Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston.

[#] Thu Nov 14 2013 07:33:29 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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As part of their Drug The Children tour?

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