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[#] Thu Aug 01 2013 15:11:46 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Another semi-interesting military draft factoid...

The draft in effect during the Vietnam War was not for the Vietnam War.

The draft was resumed in 1948 after the end of World War II. It remained in full effect until 1973, modified in 1969 to use the "birthday lottery" method to select the order in which men were conscripted into military service. If the draft were to be resumed today, the lottery method (with some rather significant and surprisingly good modifications) would be the method utilized.



[#] Mon Aug 05 2013 10:50:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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appreciate your deity better). That the Catholic church elects to
ignore nature and force its own views instead (even going as far as to

impose celebacy on their priests) suggests something that's a little
askew in their thinking.

Their thinking was completely rational and sensible -- but driven completely by its own self-interest.

Remember that this policy was instituted by the Roman Catholic Church during the height of its corruption. They simply did not want their clergy to have children for financial reasons. They didn't want to have to support a bunch of families, or (even worse) deal with inheritance issues.

[#] Wed Aug 07 2013 08:50:44 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, in many ways, that's even worse.

[#] Thu Aug 08 2013 01:13:31 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Mon Aug 05 2013 10:50:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Remember that this policy was instituted by the Roman Catholic Church during the height of its corruption. They simply did not want their clergy to have children for financial reasons. They didn't want to have to support a bunch of families, or (even worse) deal with inheritance issues.

If I remember correctly, priestly celibacy in the Roman Church is a product of the 12th Century;.

The only economically sensible rationale for this policy really did not "come into its own" until the early 20th century and in the United States.

The major advantage of an unmarried clergy is the ability to transfer a priest from one parish to another literally in hours. No major furniture to move (he lives in a furnished rectory); no kids' school transfers about which to worry; no wife's job to be an issue. Just pick up and go where the Bishop moves you. Period.

And as already mentioned by others, no spousal considerations in matters of retirement, pensions, inheritance, etc.

In the US, particularly with our arcane and draconian Federal Tax Code (which makes the Code of Canon Law look puny in a size comparison!) it works to simplicity. And this is a good thing.

The downside is that it is simply not natural.

However, it is a Vow and a lifestyle freely chosen by those who enter. And since it is the result of free will there really can be no argument.

If you don't like it, don't get ordained. Simple.



[#] Mon Aug 12 2013 12:46:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hopefully this is not a problem now, but in the past there have been families that sent their youngest child to the church (and by "the church" I mean the RCC, not the actual Church) so they wouldn't have one more mouth to feed.

[#] Mon Aug 12 2013 13:08:43 EDT from DemonStalker @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Aug 12 2013 12:46pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd (Uncensored)
Hopefully this is not a problem now, but in the past there have been
families that sent their youngest child to the church (and by "the
church" I mean the RCC, not the actual Church) so they wouldn't have
one more mouth to feed.



I don't understand exactly what you mean since the youngest age at which a prospective "initiate" can be received into Seminary or any of the Religious Orders is 18.

Unless, of course, you mean a Boarding School.
BIG CLUE TIME: Catholic Boarding Schools are ****not**** free and the cost of attending these days is upward of $15K per year, sometimes more.

I went to LaSalle College High School - not a boarding school, but a "private Catholic college preparatory high school" near Philadelphia. I graduated in 1966 and at that time the tuition was $400.00 per year. Today, the tuition to attend the exact same school is approximately $17,500.00 per year. Imagine that - a high school diploma that ends up costing Mommie about seventy GRAND !!! Not worth it at all. Period.

Although, in all fairness, that school is probably the major reason I won a National Merit Scholarship and went on to attend Villanova University on a completely "free ride." Ended up graduating with double major (math and theoretical physics) and minor (sacred theology). Free. And, by the way, so was grad school (free, that is).

All because of "eight years of the Nuns, and four years at LaSalle High" and, of course, parents that encouraged *reading*! Those were the days - homes with both married parents living in the same house at the same time with the kids. Wow. What a concept!!

The "tradition" of which you speak, IG, was that in families with three or more kids (the norm back in the 1950s) the hope was that one of the kids would become a priest (or a nun) and that one of the others would become a cop or fireman (or if all girls, a nurse). And among the Irish, it was not a tradition but a Command From On High !!! <evil grin>

--Vince

[#] Mon Aug 12 2013 13:13:12 EDT from DemonStalker @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Interesting Side Note

The tradition of one kid becoming a priest and one other kid becoming a cop was most prevalent back East in large Irish families. And in the 1950s (when I was a kid) most families were large (by today's standard at least - 3 kids or more was normal back then).

And this is why, in most places, the police van (the red thing that used to show up at the "crime scene" to pick up and transport the suspect(s) to the police atation) was known as a "Paddy Wagon." Paddy, of course, being the slanglish word for "Patty" - short for Patrick - one of the most common male names in all of "Irish-dom." As in "Saint Paddy's Day" - you know, the day dedicated to Beer... ummmmm... Saint Patrick. The guy attributed to "chasing all the snakes out of Ireland."

That, of course, gives rise to the question: where did all those snakes go?
Answer: to New York City where they became LAWYERS!

[#] Sat Aug 17 2013 14:13:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hey hey hey ... it was on this day in 1977 that Elvis Presley faked his own death.

I wonder what he's been up to lately?


[#] Sat Aug 17 2013 14:21:53 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Sat Aug 17 2013 11:13:22 PDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Hey hey hey ... it was on this day in 1977 that Elvis Presley faked his own death.

I wonder what he's been up to lately?

My neighbor down the street told me she thinks she saw Elvis the other morning at the Savemart supermarket in Chico CA.



[#] Sun Aug 18 2013 23:58:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Completely plausible -- the King's gotta eat too, y'know.

[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 22:52:02 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Has anyone heard "Wooing Song of a Yeoman of Kent's Sonne"?

It's a very old song that makes fun of people from Kent, although I expect it's difficult to sing properly because of the, er, peculiar English pronunciation required to pull it off.

http://www.musicanet.org/robokopp/english/wooing.htm

(those are just lyrics... can't find it online).

[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 23:28:47 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ah well, I found something a tad low-brow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN3wpR-l1pk

Henry Purcell's Pox On You. A three-part counterpoint on farting and belching.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 00:20:44 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, weirdly, I'm awake, and for no real good reason trying to learn the bass part to Carlo Gesualdo's O Vos Omnes (the 1611 version with 6 voices).

What the fuck is wrong with me?

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 07:30:23 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Oct 3 2013 9:20pm from fleeb @uncnsrd (Uncensored)

Well, weirdly, I'm awake, and for no real good reason trying to learn

the bass part to Carlo Gesualdo's O Vos Omnes (the 1611 version with 6

voices).

What the fuck is wrong with me?



Nothing - if you're a musician.
Plenty - if your're not.
;)

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 20:11:45 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Heh... I performed enough music to think of myself as a musician, but I haven't performed music before a crowd for a long time.

Hm.

[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 13:20:57 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 15:34:39 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Omyg*d....

 



[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 15:53:36 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Awesome!



[#] Sat Oct 26 2013 22:27:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Attention universe:

"One Headlight" by The Wallflowers is officially the Worst Song EVER.

Just sayin'.

(And there's no possible way the Wallflowers would *ever* have gotten off the ground without the "my dad is Bob Dylan" boost.)

[#] Sun Oct 27 2013 03:24:38 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Remember some years back...

The "Dylan and the Dead" Tour ???

A/K/A

"The Band that Can't Play fronted by the Guy that Can't Sing" !!!

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