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[#] Mon Jun 19 2017 19:01:42 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Then he's raising their expectations..

[#] Tue Jun 20 2017 10:41:29 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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Macs are standard issue here in the bay area. I have one of those decrepit touchbar Macs now. Except for the battery life, you're not missing much.

[#] Tue Jun 20 2017 11:02:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ten years ago I walked into a CompUSA with a wad of cash, intending to buy an Apple laptop and then load it with Linux (and only Linux) just to make heads explode.  I ended up buying a Toshiba instead because it had a gorgeous 17" display that was the most beautiful thing in the store.  If I found myself with a Macbook today I would probably put Linux or Windows on it.  When I do software development it's on Linux; my preferred video tools run on Linux; the tools I need to collaborate with my cow-orkers run on Windows.  There's just no need or want for a Mac anywhere in my world.



[#] Fri Jun 23 2017 00:26:39 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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To be fair, I've never experienced a PC as mechanically rugged as a Mac. And the 6 to 10 hour battery life is pretty awesome. So, hardware-wise, they're excellent. (Except for the new keyboards.) Modern MacBook displays are effectively like paper these days, so video quality is not a problem. It's all OS and keyboard issues that kills it for me. If I were allowed to install Linux, I would.

[#] Mon Jun 26 2017 16:39:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Battery life is probably the big deal right now. Apple should have chosen ARM instead of Intel when they decided to part ways with IBM. But they've changed architectures twice already, so they could do it again. They can count on the Apple faithful to go out and buy all the new hardware and software as soon as it comes out. :) Meanwhile, Intel is angry with Microsoft because Microsoft is emulating the AMD-64 instruction set in their latest "pleeeeeease don't buy any more Chromebooks" ARMdoze operating system.

And of course Linux happily runs on all of the above. Apple and Microsoft should just abandon their crappy operating systems and reinvent them as services layers that sit on top of Linux, like Novell did with Netware.

Where was I going with this? Oh yeah ... battery life. Nothing sips power quite like ARM.

[#] Tue Jun 27 2017 10:35:58 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I'm going to maintain in my mind an image of 'power sipping'.

[#] Wed Jun 28 2017 10:46:12 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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ARM is a great choice for low-power but it's never going to pwn single-thread execution performance the way Intel does. It's just not optimized for that.

I don't know why we aren't running our data centers on a big pile of parallel ARMs though.

[#] Wed Jun 28 2017 11:39:30 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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For the same reasons -- compute nodes need CPU horsepower to maintain high TPS, and storage nodes don't use CPU enough to blip the power meter, so no real economic incentive to. Hoping RISC-V makes an impact here though; BOOM CPUs are more power efficient than their comparable ARM equivalents, and higher in performance as well.

[#] Wed Jun 28 2017 13:08:00 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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I do have some CPU-intensive, Grails-based workloads that might suffer a bit if they were redeployed on ARM. I could definitely keep up with the throughput by just deploying more processor cores. For sure. Latency would suffer a bit I suppose, but it might not be too bad.

For everything else in the stack I manage, ARM would work fine because we're dealing with stuff that's not too CPU-bound

[#] Wed Jun 28 2017 15:02:47 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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I recently purchases a Samsung Tab S3 - supposedly one of the best Android tablets out there right now.


It's got a great screen, and the non-battery, yet powered stylus is a cool trick. But anyone who has used both an iPad and an Android side by side for any length of time will tell you that Apple is still a generation ahead. I've actually had to reboot the Android because it was mibehaving (and not from some crappy third party app, which the Play store is full of). I've had the Android just sit and do nothing for 20-30 seconds at a time. Doesn't make for a great user experience.

Now, owning all three of the major tablets - Apple, Android and Microsoft - I feel that the quality of the user experience is in that order as well.

And since this is Microsoft Bashing - Microsoft should just give up on the space completely.

[#] Thu Jun 29 2017 15:01:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So you bought an Android tablet just to cimplain tgat you donr lije it as much as an ipad, which you already knew?

[#] Thu Jun 29 2017 15:46:00 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Nope. I like to catch up and see where things stand. I've owned a number of Android devices over the years. I've even have a Chromebox.... I'm probably more objective than you'd think. Yes, I still think Apple offers a superior experience overall, but that doesn't stop me from trying things out, nor does it put me in the fanboi catagory....

[#] Thu Jun 29 2017 19:37:41 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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So you're not a fan of the Surface Pro, then?  <g>



[#] Fri Jun 30 2017 01:39:23 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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Surface and Apple products offer nice and smooth UX, because they're not running Java with its excessively high overhead and freakishly weird UI model and stop-the-world garbage collection. Objective-C and COM are native and explicitly managed technologies (although Objective-C these days has automated management through some compiler tricks, under the hood it's still explicitly managed memory).

But, Android is winning because devices are "good enough." The same reason, when you think about it, why the IBM PC/XT dominated the home computer market back in the day, especially compared to its competition back then.

[#] Fri Jun 30 2017 11:25:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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One thing Apple did right was to decide that ARM would be the native architecture for iOS, and this provided a way to avoid having to use Java/Davlik/.NET/whatever like Google and Microsoft did. (Of course, Apple has an advantage here: its users are a cult who will obediently replace all of their hardware and software the moment an architecture change is announced; see also: Mac OS 68000-->PowerPC-->AMD64.)

You *can* publish native apps on Android, and some do, particularly game developers who need that little extra bit of performance. At this point, Google should just declare ARM to be the official architecture for Android, and start phasing out the interpreter. Microsoft could do the same, even if they had to pay for replacement devices for both of the people using their mobile platform.

iOS still feels "foreign" to me. I doubt anything will change that. And I do like Android, I just wish they'd ban the Facebook app.

[#] Fri Jun 30 2017 13:20:10 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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You've said the same about OSX, that it feels "foreign" - I don't see a huge difference between the Android and iOS for *most* things - although I think that Android's home screen is it's biggest problem. Stuff just shows up there, it's too similiar looking to other screens, so you're not 100% sure where you are....

Apple's architecture changes haven't been a huge problem, as they generally support older stuff for a couple of generations. You could run PowerPC apps on the x86 boxes for years after the switch.

I'd actually say they've done a better job than Android guys have in making sure that older tablets are still useful.... Lots of them NEVER see upgrades, they just assume you'll buy another one. It's almost what kept me from buying the S3.

Speaking of which - I just got the keyboard for the S3. WTF? If you open it like a book (which 99% of people are going to do) and want to flip the keyboard to just use the screen, the home keys are on the top, not the bottom. They build the damn thing backward.

They also didn't put a hole in for the camera. Another sad oversite.

At least they included a little stick on stylus holder - something better than Apple did with their keyboard on the Pro line.

It's also better than Microsoft's with the Surface - which is purely magnetic.
Very easy to knock off.

Back to bashing MS- the problem is they still insist on Windows being the answer. Apple and Google proved long ago that people have no problem switching between devices.

The only thing I really like from a design standpoint on the Surface is the build in kickstand. It's solid and works well. Apple and at least Samsung handle it kind of hooky, but they both have better keyboards in the end.

[#] Fri Jun 30 2017 13:58:48 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I've been using a Surface Book as my laptop for about a year or so now.

I rarely remove the tablet from the keyboard, and it functions pretty much like a normal laptop.

But, Microsoft occasionally pushes updates that break things. Things like how you go about logging into it. Important things.

[#] Sat Jul 01 2017 09:22:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Millions of people will agree that the usability hit that Windows took on "regular" computers, in order to accommodate its use on tablets, has been a net-negative for Windows in general. Ask anyone with a laptop or desktop why the "Settings" menu is full of stuff that only applies to smartphones, and unless they're technical you will get a blank stare. None of it makes sense.

I'm giving some consideration to switching my desktop OS from Windows 10 to Windows Server 2016. Or perhaps just ditching the desktop entirely and doing everything through my VDI instance.

[#] Sat Jul 01 2017 17:41:28 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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There was some talk of Apple adding iOS like features into OSX. I thank God they haven't done it.

I'm pretty tired of all the major OS's changing for the sake of change and not really getting better in the process.

[#] Sat Jul 01 2017 18:14:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yes. That. Until everyone contracted the "touch-enable everything" cancer, the whole desktop universe was converging on the RISC OS style user interface with a tray/taskbar on the bottom of the screen. Microsoft peaked at Windows 95, Linux with KDE2/GNOME2 (but icewm got there first). Apple got close with OS X, but I've never liked the behavior (now mimicked by Microsoft) where there is only minimal visual indication of the difference between a program that is available for quick launch and a program that is running.

The purpose of an operating system is to launch programs and then get out of the way. Everyone has forgotten.

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