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[#] Wed Jun 07 2017 18:53:31 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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hehehehe.. And to think Bill was long gone by the time they released that useless piece of functionality.

[#] Wed Jun 07 2017 23:37:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Doesn't matter. Bill Gates is still the second worst person in the entire universe.

[#] Wed Jun 07 2017 23:43:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So on a whim this afternoon I decided to try Outlook. Now keep in mind, as we've always known, people buy Outlook because it's the only thing that works quite right with Exchange, and people buy Exchange because it's the only thing that works quite right with Outlook, and people who do both are stupid. But this is Microsoft Outlook running on Microsoft Windows connected to Microsoft Exchange -- no silly tricks here. All are the latest version.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

It just sat there for hours, with some folders partially populated, others (such as my INBOX) not populated at all. If I try to send a message it tells me I have to configure an account first (and if I give it the same account again, it still does the same thing). I got it to work by turning off cached mode, but it's slower than molasses in January.

THIS is the gold standard in corporate email and collaboration?
Decades of development and it's still a lumbering nonfunctional piece of garbage? I could write a better email system than this in my spare time.
Actually ... I *have* written a better email system than this in my spare time.

[#] Thu Jun 08 2017 09:53:35 EDT from janame @ Uncensored

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Thank for that mate <3

Wed Jun 07 2017 23:43:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Actually ... I *have* written a better email system than this in my spare time.

 



[#] Thu Jun 08 2017 17:00:58 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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You must have a super shitty Exchange server...... Outlook's not perfect by any stretch, but I can't say I've encountered such issues.

But if you started out with IMAP and switched to MAPI, it may have some strange issues. The underlying structure is a bit different. I encountered that receently.

[#] Fri Jun 09 2017 10:25:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Nope.  Fresh install of Outlook 2016, connecting to an existing mailbox that has never been touched by IMAP.

And yes, we have a super shitty Exchange server.  ALL Exchange servers are super shitty.



[#] Fri Jun 09 2017 13:24:05 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Grab the window you were just moving (and shook, hence minimizing everything else) and shake it again. All the other windows will magically reappear.

[#] Sat Jun 10 2017 13:54:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Is that what makes that happen?  "shaking" a window?  What were they thinking?

Is there any way to disable that?



[#] Sat Jun 10 2017 15:26:36 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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Probably some legacy code from their attempts at unifying desktop and mobile environment.

[#] Sat Jun 10 2017 17:57:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The sooner they erase the remaining pieces of that gigantic mistake the better.  Windoze 10 is generally pretty usable but it still has pieces that make no sense unless you're running it on a smartphone (which 99.99999999999999999999% of Windoze users are NOT).

I'm giving some consideration to using Server 2016 as a desktop instead of Windoze 10.  Server has less of the stupidness-that-you-can't-turn-off like the "apps" which no one wants, and it doesn't have that big yeasty cunt Cortana shoving herself in your face all the time.

 



[#] Mon Jun 12 2017 09:55:18 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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they thinking?

Is there any way to disable that?

I don't know.

[#] Tue Jun 13 2017 13:10:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I found it. gpedit --> Local Computer Policy --> User Configuration --> Administrative Templates --> Desktop --> Turn off Aero Shaking minimizing mouse gestures , and set to Enable.

Really getting tired of this crap and thinking I probably ought to go back to Linux.

[#] Tue Jun 13 2017 13:15:00 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Why did you leave Linux in the first place? You don't *have* to use Ubuntu if you hate it. Debian seems okay.

[#] Tue Jun 13 2017 14:17:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Short answer is that I've just been too lazy to care. 20 years ago it was completely clear to everyone that Microsoft was on its way to extending its monopoly into every corner of computing, and needed to be fought off everywhere, no matter how small their presence was. Today, Microsoft still dominates the desktop, and Linux pretty much owns EVERY other space. No one even runs Windows Server anymore, except to run Microsoft's own server software. So at some point I just stopped bothering, at least with my work computer, and ran the software that came with it.

Don't get me wrong; I still want Bill Gates to be fed feet-first into a wood chipper. And when he finally dies I *will* be arrested for pissing on his grave. But we've reached a point where Microsoft isn't an existential threat to everyone else anymore. That mantle is now held by Amazon and Facebook.

As for Ubuntu, I've started using it again, on my personal computer. They've finally abandoned the "Unity" desktop, which was a mistake from the beginning. And they've abandoned Upstart, another stupid move. I went with KDE this time because it still looks and acts like a desktop -- something that all the other desktops all seem to have forgotten how to do. Plus my very favorite video editor (Kdenlive) is KDE-native.

[#] Wed Jun 14 2017 10:49:22 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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Without fail, KDE 2, KDE 3, KDE 4, doesn't matter; I always find a way to dump core in KDE within one minute of starting the environment up. Usually, ironically, by just resizing and/or moving windows on the screen.

[#] Wed Jun 14 2017 15:15:07 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Since you're a decade or more behind me, you'll be using OSX in another 5 years. :)

[#] Wed Jun 14 2017 16:44:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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In theory, perhaps; but I will always be too frugal to pay for Apple's overpriced hardware.

[#] Wed Jun 14 2017 17:05:39 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Cheap shit machines are cheap shit. My Dell was actually more money than my Mac.....

[#] Wed Jun 14 2017 19:47:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Who said anything about paying for it myself? ;) Both of my machines are pretty high end Dell laptops and were paid for by my employer. They're not likely to start issuing Macs anytime soon.

[#] Mon Jun 19 2017 18:15:58 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Fuck issuing. Request one. Say you'll be more productive.

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