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[#] Tue Oct 13 2015 13:45:34 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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once the browser (no not IE) is in fullscreen...

[#] Tue Oct 13 2015 22:53:42 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Is Windows 10 being offered for free to Windows XP users?  Because that is what I duel boot with... or have in my virtual machine...  but I have no desire to upgrade unless it is for free.

[#] Wed Oct 14 2015 10:13:40 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I don't think so.

And your box may already have been hacked.

[#] Wed Oct 14 2015 12:21:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Windoze 10 is being offered as a "free" upgrade only to consumer versions of Windoze 7, 8, and 8.1. If you have XP, Vista, or a "professional" version of 7/8 you don't qualify.

You will of course need to sign a pledge promising to put all of your stuff on Azure and Office365, and never do business with Apple or Google again.

[#] Wed Oct 14 2015 13:59:18 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm... not entirely true. I had a professional version of 7 running, and it upgraded to 10 without having to buy it.

[#] Wed Oct 14 2015 14:29:47 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Wed Oct 14 2015 10:13:40 AM EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

I don't think so.

And your box may already have been hacked.

Meh, for the few times I boot to the Windows side, or start my virtual machine I don't feel overly threatened.  No data of importance is kept there.

[#] Thu Oct 15 2015 18:06:36 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Heh. They're not upgrading server versions, but W7 Pro is definitely on the free-upgrade path.

[#] Sun Oct 18 2015 16:13:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Heh. They're not upgrading server versions, but W7 Pro is definitely

on the free-upgrade path.

Server is a different story altogether. The same people who lambasted Linux by complaining that it "takes you back to the command line" are moving aggressively towards everything being configured from PowerHell. If you want the GUI you will eventually have to run RSAT on a remote desktop.

Of course, PowerHell is nowhere near as intuitive as a Linux command line.
Even the Windows admins I know say that.

Server is also questionable as to M$'$ motives with regard to Office 365.
They are pretty clear about 

not promising support for hybrid environments (on-premises and cloud together) beyond the next version. This seems to imply that they want as many customers as possible fully migrated onto their cloud. Micro$oft has a serious case of Google envy.

[#] Mon Oct 19 2015 11:15:47 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, in this case its rather amazon envy.

From all of those cloud providers you can get a free trial with computing time... except for the most established one: amazon.

[#] Mon Oct 19 2015 11:18:34 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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that's not a cloud. that's thinly-veiled subscription-based licensing. And it sucks.

[#] Mon Oct 19 2015 16:08:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Of course.  Why sell once what you can sell over and over again forever?  That's the dark and dirty side of "Teh Clu0d" (tm).  And they still sold you a Windows license!

[#] Fri Nov 06 2015 20:32:57 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So ... Windoze 10 and its already-earned reputation for constantly spying on you and sending your keystrokes, browsing habits, microphone and camera data, etc. back to the mothership.

Overblown?  Real?  Somewhere in between?

There's a third party app to disable all of the spying but it pays for itself by inserting ads into every program you open.  Wow.

Others seem to be blacklisting DNS entries, but that probably blocks updates...

[#] Fri Nov 13 2015 11:15:33 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Supposedly, you can opt out of that stuff, but also supposedly it limits what Windows 10 can do for you. Heh.

[#] Sat Nov 21 2015 13:05:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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If it "limits" that self-righteous bitch Cortana then I'm all for it.

"Windows 10: aka you WILL use Bing and Azure whether you want to or not!
Seig heil!"

[#] Mon Nov 23 2015 01:35:03 EST from Harkonias @ Uncensored

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You can completely uninstall Cortana - but since it's integrated with search this effectively breaks the desktop search engine.

Open a powershell window as administrator


Get-AppxPackage -Name Microsoft.Windows.Cortana | Select PackageFullName

It'll give you the fullname of the cortana package. Mine gives "Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_1.4.8.176_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"

So then remove it with

Remove-AppxPackage Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_1.4.8.176_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy

That should be it.


[#] Mon Nov 30 2015 11:21:37 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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With any luck, this will turn into another antitrust issue and Microsoft will be forced to allow Cortana to use non-Microsoft search engines. Either that, or the death penalty for all Microsoft employees as a penalty for building it this way. Either solution is acceptable.

[#] Tue Dec 22 2015 22:55:47 EST from anon @ Uncensored

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2015-10-09 21:49 from vince-q @cascade (Cascade Lodge BBS)
If enough people want the windows classic shell, somebody will write

it, same as they did for all the pseudo-start-menus for 8 and 8.1. Some

of those were actually good.

Why did anyone need to make classic shells for Windows? The average Windows user doesn't even know what version they're running, and people who know what they're doing with computers don't need the program because they're not even using Windows.

[#] Wed Dec 23 2015 04:59:53 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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maintaining the windows port of ArangoDB which I do via rdesktop on a server 8 something whatever, I installed a startmenu since I was fed up with the bullshit.

However, I prefer to use ssh to work with the wintendo. Even better, automated shit, so jenkins will do it for me.

[#] Wed Dec 23 2015 23:46:26 EST from ryan42 @ Uncensored

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Why did anyone need to make classic shells for Windows? The average

The "classic" shells I have seen for Windows don't get nearly classic enough for my tastes. My favorite Windows UI was still the simple, spatial Explorer layout of NT4 and Windows 95. It was still usable up through Windows 2000 but who decided that we needed to take all the toolbars and sidebars and UI trash that used to clutter browsers and move them into the once-minimalistic and efficient file explorer windows?

[#] Thu Dec 24 2015 08:37:26 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I thought "classic shells" was a Kraft mac n' cheese product.

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