Thu Dec 12 2013 07:55:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ UncensoredAnd in other news, here's a great article about why Connectix Virtual PC ... err, I mean Microsoft Hyper-V ... will continue to be a non-starter in the virtualized data center: [ http://goo.gl/uFjm8K ]
as even some microsoft employees admit, that the Kernel isn't the fastest and dropping behind the rest of the world year by year, why would you run it as hypervisor?
What Freak said, mostly. Though a friend at the evil empire says that you will get at least a primitive file menu from that button, as well as the tile screen. EG, we're too dumb to figure out how to do this right, even though we had already been doing it for 20 years, so here's a stupid W3.1 version to shut all y'all up.
"I feel like a moron. Waiting outside a Microsoft Store..."
The real morons are *inside* the Microsoft Store.
Windows 8 is just the same problem Microsoft had with the Windows Mobile (aka Windows CE), where Microsoft thought that the Windows XP/2000 desktop would be nifty on a tiny mobile phone. Now Microsoft has what some people say is a good mobile interface, so they've decided that it should go on the desktop, too.
I've seen a *lot* worse on X using linux over the years. And some of that is still very much in use. And still very much worse than Win8.
I guess you're not all right there.
there are shell replacements & enhancements for windows too.
They're just not as common; thinking about bblean or xobelite...
Dec 28 2013 11:07am from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
vince: how much did Micro$oft pay you to write that? </oblig>
I do not have to be paid to write that which is true.
And folks do not have enough money to get me to write falsehood(*).
(*)Satire and fiction being the obvious exceptions.
Even if one manages to avoid Windows 8, there are still elements of this design failure in other places, such as Office. On the occasions where I use these applications, I find it *extremely* unpleasant, for example, to click the File menu and instead of getting the file menu, a gigantic tile slides in from the left and occupies a third of the screen.
Bottom line: touch optimized UI looks and works badly on non touch devices.
Dec 29 2013 6:30am from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd (Uncensored)
I have to disagree as well. The evolution of window management took a
long time but both the Windows and Linux worlds eventually settled on
the taskbar style desktop as the optimal configuration for a computer
with a keyboard, mouse, and upright display. Forcing users into a UI
designed for a handheld device with a touchscreen is a jarring and
To the best of my knowledge, Win8 and 8.1 both have a "Desktop" tile on the tiles screen. Clicking on that gives you a much more "traditional" Windows presentation. Taskbar and all - and even a Start Menu (either from MicroSlop or any number of free third-party start menus - and talk is that 8.2 will see the return of the Win7-style Start Menu).
It is even possible to configure Win8 to boot directly to the desktop and skip the "tile screen" (Metro Interface as some call it) entirely.
And there is simply no escaping the fact that Win8 is - again in *my* experience - leaps & bounds *faster* than any other Micr$lop Windows implementation to date.
For the record: I am by no means a Microsoft apologist or advocate. Whenever possible I "push" friends into linux as quickly as possible. Whatever "good" one thinks one perceives in Micro$lop WinBlows, linux is always better. Just as easy to use, infnitely more configurable, and truly open source. On those points, the Redmond folk don't even come close.
They almost, in fact, did manage to redeem themselves, but then decided not to follow through on the alleged intention of releasing the source code for Windows 98 Second Edition. It would have been lots of fun to "massage" that into a real operating system. But then why bother? Just run your favorite "flavor" of linux and if you have "certain software packages" for which there is no option other than WinBlows, just install WINE and be done with it. Or run your favorite WinBlows on a VirtualBox inside of linux (which handles Virtual Boxen INFINITELY better than WinBlows ever has or will).
My favorite Windows 8 review ever...
That's an excellent synapses to how Win8 sucks.
complaining about specifics. I have used Win8 so I can't related.
Aye, watched the whole thing. It's a very good video on the issue.
Faster doing what? The booting? I stopped booting years ago, there is sleep/hybernate. Afaik, Win8 hybernates by default, even if you shut it down. So "booting faster" is a nice gimmick, the rest of the "faster" part might just be a new/faster hd or even ssd.
The problems with "swiping on a mousepad" is funny, since I own a Macbook Air and swiping can be an integral part of you daily OS usage, if you activate it. The thing is, all swiping is done with at least two fingers and the hardware is good enough to detect it properly. I had issues with touchpads on Win8, too. Most moronic thing, I think I actually ranted about it: If you scroll vertically on the right side of your touchpad, your tile view scrolls horizontally.
Also: Death to the taskbar, your mom does not need one. A dock like in OSX and most of your linux desktops is enough and partially a lot better.