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[#] Mon Jun 06 2011 23:19:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That video shows quite the fucked up scene that you now have to type

on the screen in front of you. holding your arms in the air? That's
insane.

We had a discussion about this around the lunch table today.

Conclusion: the movie "Minority Report" has severely harmed the computer industry by giving people a really bad idea of what future UI design should look like.

Perhaps they don't expect you to touch your screen. Perhaps they expect you to buy a Kinect(tm) for every desktop computer, and you'll have to wave your hands at it to move things around. Laptop manufacturers would be forced to license the technology for every unit sold, thereby creating a NEW Microsoft Tax to replace or supplement the existing one for Windows.

Or perhaps they expect future desktop and laptop computers to resemble a larger version of the Nintendo DS: an upright display in front of you, and a touch-sensitive display where the keyboard used to be -- no more full-motion keys.

Any of these things seem like an ergonomic nightmare.

And this is what happens when Microsoft tries to build something on its own without stealing ideas from someone who's already done it correctly.

[#] Tue Jun 07 2011 06:06:36 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Mo Jun 06 2011 23:19:17 EDT von IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored


Or perhaps they expect future desktop and laptop computers to resemble a larger version of the Nintendo DS: an upright display in front of you, and a touch-sensitive display where the keyboard used to be -- no more full-motion keys.

I realy liked my fingerworks keyboard. (may it rest in piece) and I still hope apple is going to release a grown up version of it again any time soon; you  can already buy a gesture pad again, and the 'magic mouse' which I use with my netbook, great stuff.

while it didn't have discrete keys, it had marks where to put the fingers at (which is exactly what i'm missing at the magicmouse)

being able to mouse / move text cursor by whiping over it with two keys was a real joy!



[#] Tue Jun 07 2011 16:20:23 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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That video shows quite the fucked up scene that you now have to type

on the screen in front of you. holding your arms in the air? That's
insane.

http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-laptop-with-no,14299/

[#] Wed Jun 08 2011 07:51:01 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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yeah, that's the one I was talking about elsewhere.

[#] Thu Jun 09 2011 06:36:00 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Yeah, I get that shit ALL the time at work. Drives me batty and you
can't turn it off.

Um, you CAN turn it off -- your sysadmin must just have it set up so you can't make the prefs change.

[#] Fri Jun 10 2011 05:54:06 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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This just amuses me to no end, whatsoever. XD

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/profile/ignatius%20t%20foobar/

[#] Fri Jun 10 2011 14:53:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hmm. I don't even remember why I created that login.

[#] Fri Jun 10 2011 17:17:53 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You probably need something from MSDN.

[#] Mon Jun 20 2011 15:56:37 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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lol -> http://bit.ly/mHnjDt

(Skype axes senior execs before microsoft deal closes)



[#] Mon Jun 20 2011 17:31:16 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Oh, yeah, I was reading about that earlier, and thinking, "Man, that must suck."

[#] Thu Jun 23 2011 17:59:26 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I sense a lawsuit.

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 10:40:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So how's everyone doing in the effort to migrate away from Skype?

Nearly everyone I video with has moved to Google Talk at this point. And it looks like there's plenty of new code being released that will allow lots of new clients to support Jingle, either through Google or through other servers.

Could end up being a good thing.

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 11:06:27 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Nearly everyone I video with has moved to Google Talk at this point.


Did you push them into that? ;)

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 13:07:16 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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IG, isn't Google migrating only non-windows-based gtalk to Jingle?



[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 16:34:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It is true that Google has no plans to convert the existing Windows client to use Jingle protocol. This does not mean that it won't be interoperable, however. Google's servers will be responsible for acting as a protocol gateway.

This is a subject I'm familiar with since I've written an XMPP server. :)
It's fairly straightforward to build a system in which dedicated clients can interoperate with clients using a standards-track protocol. For that matter, I could probably use libjingle to add video to Citadel, but I wouldn't do so unless I was convinced that it would serve some useful purpose.

And yes, I played a role in my friends and family moving to Google Talk.
:)

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 16:39:39 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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We use Skype daily for morning meetings...

don't see that changing any time soon

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 16:52:50 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I want to get my sister away from Skype, honestly, but so far none of the other clients have worked very well for her.

I wonder if Google Talk has been improved enough that it works better for her now. Hm....

[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 18:53:38 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Video user meetings!



[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 20:27:52 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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It's not the 1:1 video meetings that matter from skype. You can do that with Yahoo and other things too.. It's the group meetings where multiple people can be in the room typing all the time that really changes things. And I haven't seen those kinds of permanent rooms in other chat clients.



[#] Mon Jun 27 2011 22:38:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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True. However, based on what I've seen in the past, now that Skype is owned by Microsoft, the free world will accelerate its pace to develop a feature-equivalent alternative. Skype for Linux was just "good enough" that no one bothered to do more than the basics. Microsoft's new position alters the battle lines.
Even though Skype's support for Linux was half-assed, Skype wasn't a company interested in destroying all software it didn't control.

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