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[#] Fri Feb 11 2011 12:53:23 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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(Or as one site reported it: "Phones no-one uses to run operating system no-one likes.")

[#] Sat Feb 12 2011 09:35:36 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Lots of people everywhere are writing about this deal. Almost no one likes it. In fact, a thousand Nokia employees staged a walk-out after hearing the news.

Nokia is being compared to SGI, which did an almost identical deal a decade or more ago: hire a Microsoft alum to put in charge of the company, abandon the crown jewels to switch to Windows, and subsequently become a shell of a company. (As one commenter put it: these are people who can't think outside the box because they *are* the box.)

Pretty much the only observer who thinks this is a good deal is Miguel de Icaza. That, by itself, should say more than enough.

[#] Sat Feb 12 2011 10:38:33 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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for de icaza its more c-carpet capable devices out there.

I agree about the ex-microsoft managers: big mistake.

but if you have a look at the history of nokia... comodore and others also come to mind:

end of the 90'ies they made lots of handsets. but figured in time that their current aproach wouldn't fit for smartphones, so they bought a failing maker of handhelds:


These devices would run for weeks, had pens (and handwriting recognition) better than palm these days.

They took their OS, and made it symbian, to be run on their smartphones on top of their own (old) os, which still today runs the baseband processors in some cases.

smart move, symbian was much better than windows ce at any time.

They also jumped the j2me bandwagon of sun, especialy for the series 40 devices.

So it took some years, they figured that it was pretty hard to develop symbian apps, and most developers would start doing wince apps.

They made a rather smart move, created a tiny tablet appliance (yes way back in 2006) which was running a pocket gtk or such...and handed it out to the nerds to start developing for it.

These gtk guys ate it, they weren't able to stabilize the platform, interest vanished, something had to be done.

So they bought trolltech.Made it a little easier, but not as easy as the other devices, plus its c++ instead of c, so they would spoil everyone left doing gtk apps.

meanwhile they had licensed symbian to other entities (samsung, sony ericson, siemens...) but the platform started to fragment, which made developing apps for them harder. So they tried to get back in charge with the symbian foundation (4 to 6 years to late imho) which was done slooouuwww (took over a year to complete) they weren't able to unfork, but instead android showed up, Samsung entirely dropped symbian support (even closed down development resources and so on) They did some own apps, managed to get navigation working (did they purchase again here?)  tried some obscure pay model for the navi, which failed on them, made it for free so they could compete in features with androids.

now, they're dropping out of symbian by themselves. Turning down any developer that is around by taking c++ away from them and offering them c-carpet.


Microsoft otoh is also doing a risky game here. Suddenly HTC, who they made create a vista fon by harassing their android fones with some legal actions, HTC being _the_ experts enabling them to bring wince to the phone... and others like LG who did some loneley phone... and *BAM* suddenly they're just junior partners in comparison to nokia.

Since their mapblast and other stuff failed on wince (and they played bad with tomtom a while ago...) They're doing non-navi enabled phones which noone wants... And now, they think they might be able to utilize nokias mapping service... we'll see whether they're able to create a descent version of that in c-carpet... don't think so.

All in all I think we've got a good chance that its all going to blow up into their faces. I'm praying for it.


We'll se whether KDE has to fork QT now...



[#] Tue Feb 15 2011 12:36:04 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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While trying to figure out what to do next, I sometimes habitually drum on the shift key.

Thankfully, I use Linux.

If I do that on Windows, Windows assumes that I'm handicapped and starts trying to turn on "I have no fingers" mode.

[#] Tue Feb 15 2011 13:07:13 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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me too, unfortunately i use WinXP at work... so i have to resort to tapping on the desk making a banging/clicking sound instead of the melodeous sound of a well worn shift key.

[#] Tue Feb 15 2011 19:48:09 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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don't know y, but sometimes the wintendo I have to run outlook on turns on the naranator...



[#] Wed Feb 16 2011 23:12:17 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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If I do that on Windows, Windows assumes that I'm handicapped and
starts trying to turn on "I have no fingers" mode.

Yeah, I get that shit ALL the time at work. Drives me batty and you can't turn it off.

[#] Thu Feb 17 2011 11:45:20 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I mean seriously, if I wanted to operate a computer while wearing mittens, I would buy a one-mouse-button Mac. :)

[#] Thu Feb 17 2011 11:51:20 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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just heard an insider comment that nokia probably did more harm to meego than do usefull stuff in the end.

[#] Wed Mar 02 2011 10:13:55 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Toshiba has been pushing the "micro nuclear" idea for a long time. They seem to have the technology available, even without Billgatus backing them. So far, most of the problems have involved political opposition rather than technology hurdles.

[#] Tue Mar 01 2011 13:28:43 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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grr... why mess with a format that's already established as a standard... this is going to FAIL

[#] Tue Mar 01 2011 19:39:26 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed Mar 02 2011 21:42:06 EST from Sig @ Uncensored

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I only recently discovered QR codes.  I use them to embed mini-editorials in my signature blocks and avatars on various sites.  I wish I'd known earlier; I would have done my last drill letter entirely in QR codes.

[#] Tue Mar 01 2011 12:20:13 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow, this is just incredible:

You know those QR codes that are popping up everywhere? The ones that you can point your phone's camera at and it'll automatically bring up a web site, app install, contact, or whatever? The ones that have already started showing up on the sides of buses and buildings in various parts of Asia? The ones that work on iPhone, Android, and lots of other devices?


Without a monopoly in mobile devices to leverage. Against an existing format that has already become the standard.

I am incredulous that they actually think they can pull off this routine in a market where they can't leverage Windows or Office. It really gives us a glimpse into the kind of thinking that goes on in Redmond. They actually still think that they're awesome. The reality that Microsoft has no place in the mobile world still hasn't sunk in.

They really don't see that they're following the same path that IBM did.

[#] Wed Mar 02 2011 11:29:51 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I am incredulous that they actually think they can pull off this
routine in a market where they can't leverage Windows or Office. It

You'll notice that they do this over and over again.
They see somebody else do something, then copy it and it fails and they go on to the next thing. Even if there's already ane existing standard.

Although the did win with the xbox360 and the kinect.

[#] Sun Mar 20 2011 13:33:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I suspect that the Kinect isn't going to be as big as they say. It's a cool application of technology, but for any game more sophisticated than Kinectimals, you're going to want some buttons.

So here's my prediction: within a year you're going to see an extension controller for the Kinect that allows the user to have some handheld buttons -- essentially reducing the Kinect to the equivalent of a Wii.

You heard it here first.

[#] Sun Mar 20 2011 15:07:06 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Kinect Sports works pretty well. The problem is that there's no standard for a button-less interface.

[#] Mon Mar 28 2011 15:11:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Moving beyong the Microsoft Monoculture

For the last 15 years we have been living in a Microsoft monoculture, which has had very real knock-on consequences for everyone online -- not just for users of its products. Today, though, that monoculture is fading away, to be replaced by something much more complex.

(An article in The H Open by Glyn Moody. No real surprises in this article, but it's a nice summary.

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