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[#] Fri Feb 20 2009 10:47:34 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's it, I'm now convinced that Ballmer is not human. Otherwise there's no way he could have survived the lightning strike that would have to had hit him when he said "Openness is central because it's the foundation of choice."

[#] Sat Feb 21 2009 17:03:19 EST from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Feb 12 2009 5:47pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
That's why WinFS now stands for "Windows Future Storage" rather than
"Windows File System." If they ever manage to pull it off, it'll end

up being just a metadata subsystem that sits on top of NTFS. Epic

IG, you need to get your nomenclature right: it's "#EpicFAIL" or just "Epic #fail" (the latter is probably better as it's more common and recognized better). You could even do "=Epic #fail"

[#] Mon Feb 23 2009 17:34:26 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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did you already see the Windows RealGood edition?

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 03:18:12 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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i think that was around in the 90's

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 05:17:38 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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IE6 soon to be history?


(maybe the effort to get the next webcit version running in IE isn't needed anymore? ;)

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 09:45:46 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Lazy Americans won't be nearly as proactive in getting rid of IE6.  (For that matter, lazy Americans are the reason why the decline of Windows is happening slower in the US than elsewhere.)

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 10:27:12 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, at least you could call windows somewhat an american product...

(which is used against it in other parts of the world)

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 14:43:35 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Heh, lazy people wind up installing service packs that include updated internet explorers?

Or... maybe... they never update their machines, and simply become food for viruses.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 15:25:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Actually, the US *does* risk becoming a technological backwater, as the rest of the world leapfrogs ahead by moving to Linux.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 15:45:54 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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That is already happening, at an accelerating pace. It hasn't really hit the papers yet but it will, soon.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 16:04:33 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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1. Cell phones: We're still on analog (mostly), while other countries have moved to digital. I'm sure we're getting better, but for us, it's a novelty.

2. Hot water on demand: We use fucking tubs of hot water that we keep heated, instead of heating the water as we need it. Europeans have the other style, which is far more efficient.

3. Computer OSes: We use Windows almost everywhere, while other countries use damn near any operating system depending on what they need to do.

4. Access to broadband: Fucking KOREA has better access to broadband than we do. There's something funny, to me, about knowing that you can get better access to broadband in a country where a little girl can shit on the streets and nobody will think boo about it, than here in the United States, where such behavior is really bad manners.

That's four things off the top of my head, most of which is related to infrastructure, and one related to just pure ignorance (item 2). I realize we have a special problem to overcome when it comes to our infrastructure, in that we're a rather large country. But, I can't help but feel we can deal with these things. I just wish we would work on them in a more obvious fashion.

Oh, five things: we're still struggling to switch over to digital television.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 16:17:33 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Agreed on most of that, except for the cell phones. We're pretty much moved over to digital at this point. We're still not taking full advantage of it though; in most of the world you can take a GSM phone and roam *between* *carriers* if necessary.

It is a leapfrog game, though; we're on the wrong side of this particular move.

On the other hand, we do have commercial interests holding back the progress of technology in order to prop up their interest in the status quo. Microsoft is probably the single biggest offender.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 16:18:44 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Yeah, you're right about the cellphones... I should have said that it's still a novelty to us, rather than something we now take for granted.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 16:43:34 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Some of those things have to do with raw size.... All of Europe is smaller than the United States. Plus, we weren't "reset" from 1930-1945. We had a copper infrastructure, so cellular service rolled out slower here. Plus we had first mover advantage.

In places like Greece, up until the late 1980's it took a YEAR to order a copper land line. As the technology progressed, they just abandonded the idea of wiring altogether.

As for instant hot water heaters - they suck. Every shower I've taken in Europe has been luke-warm at best.

And one other thing - Korean broadband isn't profitable yet.... The government gave it a big push to get built, but the money isn't there.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 16:55:44 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm... my boss has been happy with his shower since converting to the other system. As much as he likes to complain about anything that isn't just right, I should think I would have heard if those systems truly sucked by now. I'll have to ask him about that specifically.

Yes, the copper infrastructure took a while to implement... and had government backing. It's one of the reasons why phone companies have so much regulation to endure (at least as long as they do landline service).

It's comforting to know Korea's broadband isn't profitable yet... I guess.
I can't imagine how they could easily make money on it, unless they're anticipating that the flood of information the infrastructure can provide might lead to better education, which in turn could lead to better productivity as their workforce becomes more capable of handling higher tech jobs. If that's the strategy, it could be a while before they'll see profit... a long while. But it might be extremely profitable on a long term. Sort of hard to say right now. I just remember visiting Korea in 1988 or so, and thinking that the place seemed like a third world country. It's shocking to know that they have better broadband than us (although it's easier for them to pull it off, up to a point; many homes probably still don't have electricity out there).

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 17:42:20 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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while the first touch tone switched landlines arived in the late 80'ies over here in germany (until then it was that funny beeping you just could see in US movies... ;-) the last analog cellphone network, the C-Net went offline in 2k (see , it has a nice charts of the network lives)

After the Re-Uniting of BRD and GDR the GDR parts of the country got a 'modern fiber optic network' which is the reason why you at best can get ISDN speed internet in some parts of Berlin until today. (no, they won't give you DSL, and if you're out of luck, cable TV doesn't offer internet in your area and you're in the German Capital and all you will get is lousy ISDN with 128K if you utilize both channes..Pricing is not verry attractive for that these days, you know?

And, yes, the US should convert to 230 V like france did a while ago. And, they should abandon all plugs and cabling system at the same time. If some european with deeper knowledge about electric wiring enters the US, everything looks as if it was for a model train.  And... you won't be able to buy light switches that use less than 85% of their surface to operate them.

On those electric whater heaters without tanks... Your experience may vary. The problem about them is, that most of them control their thrust by the speed the whater flows through them. It works nice with conventional showers, its working acceptable. If you have one of those more modern ones that don't waste that much whater by reducing the throughput, you may end up with cold whater or whater not able to decide whether it shal freeze or cook you switching state every 10 seconds.

If you buy those verry expansive ones ith digital temparature control you're fine in all cases.

and... M$... Probably a question of lubbying, right? As I mentioned recently, many europeans would measure that sort of lobying as corruption.

[#] Tue Feb 24 2009 21:49:02 EST from rod @ Uncensored

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I thought we were bashing M$ in here? We going to bash USA too? i'm ok with
that, I just like to know the score...

Frankly, I don't know where you hillbillies live, but I've had digital cellphone
service for over 8 years. And that's without me roaming in to either digital
roam or analog. I've lived in the sticks off the gulf and I now live on the
north east coast. Always in a digital cell.

What everyone should REALLY be waiting for is a real damned upstream, not this
2Mbit crap. I want to bring my servers home so I can serve whatever I want
and not have to doll out a bunch of cash every month. I want VMWare boxes
running at home that I can VPN in to and use anywhere that has a wifi, but I
also want a good upstream so I can mirror my stuff out on the net.

Linux might be able to save us, but linux needs to get it's ass in gear. We need
more linux games, more linux market saturation
and more understanding of linux
by ol' joe six pack. The average joe is a moron (and 50% of people are
dumber...) so we need to dumb down linux while retaining the advanced
functionality we all enjoy. We'd all like to think we don't need joe, but we
need his money to get what we want.

I'm expecting netbooks to help us with this, but hopefully vendors won't sell
crappy, underpowered machines with a bloated linux OS on it because people are
going to get a bad taste in their mouths and go back to windows.


[#] Wed Feb 25 2009 03:00:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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dell netbooks: 1/3rd linux, no bigger return rate than windows.

so, i'd say at least 10% of all netbooks could run linux, which finaly are hard figures of linux sales we've been waiting for so long.

[#] Wed Feb 25 2009 05:57:46 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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if you have a look at this article you know why the server market isn't declining as the client market does...they put their realy best staff at it and gave them certain decision space instead of installing another set of hamster-wheels.

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