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[#] Fri Dec 12 2008 07:26:39 EST from matt @ comalies

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After having to do a bit of work tonight getting my changes to Webcit working in IE 7 (after working flawlessly, without any need for browser sniffing in Firefox, WebKit and Opera), I've pondered:

If one could update the Mozilla ActiveX control ( and then get it code-signed in the same manner as the Silverlight, Flash etc. plugins (lots of $$ to VeriSign no doubt), plenty of suckers still on IE could get an 'upgraded' browsing experience, without realising - they'll just click 'Yes' to download and install it automatically, and sites can then sniff for the presence of the control and use it to render the content instead.

Meanwhile, all those with crapware that demands IE 6 are going to be shitting themselves soon no doubt - Windows 7 will roll along with IE 8, M$ will go 'we'll give you XP/IE6, if you have a big money software assurance license, we don't do security updates', and the poor IT dept still won't learn any lessons. 

[#] Tue Dec 16 2008 18:38:07 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the BSI (the german thing alike the CERN) tells users not to use the IE, but better use Firefox and friends instead.

It's even on tv in the news.

[#] Tue Dec 16 2008 18:47:28 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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/. has an article about MS saying to use something other than IE until they get a patch out for the latest bad problem.

[#] Tue Dec 16 2008 20:24:40 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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And once people make the switch...they might actually dump IE for good.

[#] Tue Dec 16 2008 21:31:33 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I did not realize this, but apparently someone tried three times to throw eggs at Steve Balmer earlier this year (and missed each time).

[#] Wed Dec 17 2008 01:05:23 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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should've hired a juggler. They're very accurate when they throw stuff.

Just don't ask a juggler to pass you a plate of spaghetti... at least not if you like the floor clean...

and I discovered that one of the sites that refused to work with FF now does!


[#] Wed Dec 17 2008 07:51:08 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I did not realize this, but apparently someone tried three times to throw

eggs at Steve Balmer earlier this year (and missed each time).

See, that's where you've gotta use grenades. It's one of the few places where "close" does the job just fine.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2008 10:41:45 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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Yeah, but if you get rid of Ballmer, who replaces him - someone worse? That's the problem.


What we need is a internet virus that completes destroys Windows - deletes every system file. 

[#] Thu Dec 18 2008 11:22:53 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I've given the topic a lot of thought. I think if the entire Redmond campus and everyone who worked there were wiped out (a one kiloton nuke would do the trick nicely without spoiling too much else) it would probably slow them down enough for the desktop monopoly to break within a year or two.

[#] Thu Dec 18 2008 18:58:44 EST from flynnfx @ Uncensored

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That's basically a suitcase nuke, eh? You oughta be able to pick that sucker up on Ebay or Craigslist this Christmas.




Merry Christmas, world! A world where Microsoft is gone....

[#] Thu Dec 18 2008 22:25:43 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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...that would be the BEST! CHRISTMAS! EVER!!

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 04:29:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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- IIS does fastcgi now, so you can better integrate crappy php apps on your wintendo.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 14:15:33 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I know little of php but the more little bits I hear and see about it, I get the idea that it's the cheap-ass man's version of perl, becuase perl is the poor mans scripting language.
It's simple, easy, cheese and insecure. That must be why they write facebook applications in it.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 14:55:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I don't know about that. Perl is optimized for text processing, PHP is optimized for rapid development of web applications. I wouldn't want to use either one where the other is better suited.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 15:20:17 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I think I'd stop after "I wouldn't want to use either one."

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 15:35:32 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Windows over PHP.

It could be done.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 18:40:24 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I do like PHP. It's simple and it gets the job done. For a quickie web app it's just the thing. I'm not sure I'd want to build a large system out of it if I had the opportunity to do it in C, but if the alternative was a big bloated mess of "app servers" I'd still go with PHP.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 22:05:40 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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But see, that's the problem.
That's what everybody says "I'll just use it for the demo"
But then the demo becomes the product, and you can't explain to the boss why you have to start from scratch in a real language since he's got something working right in front of him, so you end up adding a few features to it, and in a few short months, you have a disasterously huge system written in php.

[#] Fri Dec 19 2008 23:03:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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[#] Thu Jan 01 2009 15:28:38 EST from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Microsoft's ZUNE media players crashes on New Years: th-a-crash.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN or

Thousands of Microsoft's Zune media players -- the software company's answer to Apple Inc.'s(AAPL Quote - Cramer on AAPL - Stock Picks) iPod -- unexpectedly conked out Wednesday and showed users an error message, prompting references to "Y2K for Zunes." The problems appeared when people tried to start up their devices.

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