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[#] Tue Oct 28 2008 19:44:06 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Yes, good mac ad. Tell it like it is brotha.

[#] Fri Oct 31 2008 10:21:49 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1688

*lol* they can't even distinguish between thei own projects.



[#] Fri Oct 31 2008 12:39:37 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39937/140/

Objects in beta phasis may appear closer as they are...

;-)



[#] Sat Nov 01 2008 17:07:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So, in case anyone read the "reviews" of the Windows 7 alpha and though that, just possibly, it isn't going to suck just as much as Vista...

http://blogs.computerworld.com/microsoft_bribes_again

Microsoft has been bribing reviewers by selecting laptop computers that they know Windows 7 is going to function perfectly on, and *giving* them, pre-loaded, to reviewers.

Ya think that maybe a bribe of a $2000 laptop would color your opinion of the OS a little?

No doubt about it: Windows 7 will suck as much as Vista.

[#] Sat Nov 01 2008 18:10:29 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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by all rights it should suck more.
I don't get it though, they don't even have entrenchment in vista yet (do they?) how are they going to pitch windws 7? "Hey all! If you were one of the smart ones who upgraded to vista, we have an upgrade path for YOU. If not, well, you better start catching up or the world will pass you by. Remember, not everybody gets to whitewash the fence."

Eventually they'll have scattered, erm littered their userbase over so many different versions nobody will be able to do anything.

[#] Sat Nov 01 2008 20:00:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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No, actually they're so desparate right now that they don't even mind entertaining the "skip Vista, go straight from XP to Win7" process.

Microsoft's problem right now is that the market is saturated, their market share has nowhere to go but down, and the desktop itself is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Moreover, their attempts to monopolize other areas of computing (mobile services, Internet services, cloud computing) are being rejected by everyone who saw what happened on the desktop and isn't going to let it happen again.

They're still entertaining the pipe dream of pulling off another rock-star rollout like Win95 in an era where the desktop simply isn't interesting anymore.
People have finally started to realize that they want the operating system to just start up and get out of the way. That's fundamentally incompatible with an operating system publisher that uses force-feed-bundling tactics to extend their monopoly into other areas.

Just watch: people are going to retch over how much Windows 7 tries to force you to use Windows Live services, when all they really want is to log on to Google.

[#] Sat Nov 01 2008 20:33:56 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Excuse me, but reports of the desktop's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

[#] Sat Nov 01 2008 22:12:05 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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by the fact that people keep using them? :-)

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 00:57:00 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Well, yes...

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 07:11:52 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Mainframes are still in use too -- in fact, most of us probably make use of services provided by mainframes every day.

Obviously something has to be running on the desktop, but that's no longer where most of the value of a computing environment is centered. I said irrelevant, not nonexistent.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 12:20:26 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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It's harder to ding Microsoft on that when they haven't finished the operating system yet.

It only makes sense to put an unfinished product on something that you know it'll work on.



[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 14:31:02 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081031PD209.html

Windows Eee PC units outselling Linux versions.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:25:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow ... Linux's market share is 30% higher than MacOS among EEE PC shipments.
Linux soooooooo has it all over Apple in that market. :)

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:36:57 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Actually, if you look carefully, it's a much higher percentage than that.  Over 200%.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:41:23 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well, I was just going by the market share figures from the article... Linux 30%, MacOS 0%.

Linux is actually higher, though. If you do a little research you will discover that if you want an EEE with a hard disk, you have to take a Windows license with it. Therefore if you want to install your own Ubuntu or whatever you have to pay for a Windows license you don't want, and also be misrepresented as a Windows user.

It's just like in the regular laptop market. According to Toshiba's statistics I'm a Vista user because I couldn't buy my Satellite without Vista on it, and my time is worth more than the number of hours it would have taken to do the whole Windows Refund routine.

Still, it's nice to see that Linux is totally kicking Apple's ass in the netbook market.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:49:36 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Appple doesn't have a netbook.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 16:07:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Clearly they know that they don't have the ability to deliver a worthy product.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 18:33:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Linux is actually higher, though. If you do a little research you will discover that if you want an EEE with a hard disk, you have to take a Windows license with it. Therefore if you want to install your own Ubuntu or whatever you have to pay for a Windows license you don't want, and also be misrepresented as a Windows user.

You can install your own linux on all of them; you just need some external boot media like an usb-stick or a CF card with a bootable OS on it.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 18:43:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, but... remember, If it were to M$, you wouldn't be even able to buy XP anymore. Have fun with Vista on your netbook...

and, its 22% of asus sales going for EEE's.

and, allmost any netbooks for the US?



[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 08:21:55 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Did I miss counting?
nt was windows 4.
2000 was windows 5
xp would then me windows 6
and vista would be windows 7
So what's windows 7 if it's not vista?

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