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[#] Sat Nov 01 2008 22:12:05 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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by the fact that people keep using them? :-)

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 00:57:00 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Well, yes...

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 07:11:52 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Mainframes are still in use too -- in fact, most of us probably make use of services provided by mainframes every day.

Obviously something has to be running on the desktop, but that's no longer where most of the value of a computing environment is centered. I said irrelevant, not nonexistent.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 12:20:26 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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It's harder to ding Microsoft on that when they haven't finished the operating system yet.

It only makes sense to put an unfinished product on something that you know it'll work on.



[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 14:31:02 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081031PD209.html

Windows Eee PC units outselling Linux versions.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:25:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow ... Linux's market share is 30% higher than MacOS among EEE PC shipments.
Linux soooooooo has it all over Apple in that market. :)

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:36:57 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Actually, if you look carefully, it's a much higher percentage than that.  Over 200%.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:41:23 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well, I was just going by the market share figures from the article... Linux 30%, MacOS 0%.

Linux is actually higher, though. If you do a little research you will discover that if you want an EEE with a hard disk, you have to take a Windows license with it. Therefore if you want to install your own Ubuntu or whatever you have to pay for a Windows license you don't want, and also be misrepresented as a Windows user.

It's just like in the regular laptop market. According to Toshiba's statistics I'm a Vista user because I couldn't buy my Satellite without Vista on it, and my time is worth more than the number of hours it would have taken to do the whole Windows Refund routine.

Still, it's nice to see that Linux is totally kicking Apple's ass in the netbook market.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 15:49:36 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Appple doesn't have a netbook.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 16:07:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Clearly they know that they don't have the ability to deliver a worthy product.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 18:33:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Linux is actually higher, though. If you do a little research you will discover that if you want an EEE with a hard disk, you have to take a Windows license with it. Therefore if you want to install your own Ubuntu or whatever you have to pay for a Windows license you don't want, and also be misrepresented as a Windows user.

You can install your own linux on all of them; you just need some external boot media like an usb-stick or a CF card with a bootable OS on it.

[#] Sun Nov 02 2008 18:43:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, but... remember, If it were to M$, you wouldn't be even able to buy XP anymore. Have fun with Vista on your netbook...

and, its 22% of asus sales going for EEE's.

and, allmost any netbooks for the US?



[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 08:21:55 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Did I miss counting?
nt was windows 4.
2000 was windows 5
xp would then me windows 6
and vista would be windows 7
So what's windows 7 if it's not vista?

[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 08:46:06 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Mon Nov 03 2008 08:21:55 EST from Ford II@uncnsrd

Did I miss counting?
nt was windows 4.
2000 was windows 5
xp would then me windows 6
and vista would be windows 7
So what's windows 7 if it's not vista?
 
Nono. 2000 was "built on NT technology" and therefore was actually windows 4.x



[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 09:32:22 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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She's correct.

Windows 2000 is simply another iteration of 4.0.

[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 09:49:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Remember what a monumental fuckup Windows ME was?  (Yeah, I mean more so than usual.)

Vista was "Windows ME 2"

This leaves v7 available for the next one.  (And it'll suck as much as all the others.  Do yourself a favor, buy a Mac or install Linux.)



[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 10:41:28 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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this one's staying XP, but if the other box ever becomes available, I think I'll go Ubuntu. It's a mess and has ME on it, which might be redundant...

[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 11:39:51 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I never used WinME. It blew chunks so strongly, corporations avoided it.

Which is kind of amazing, as corporations are stupid enough to use Windows at all, so you'd think they'd be dumb enough to use WinME.

Apparently not.

[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 14:06:16 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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w2k was winnt 5.0

I think xp was NT 5.1

 w2k added hotplugging and many other features, while XP just added mount points in directories -> put partitions under c:\foo instead of making it d:

 



[#] Mon Nov 03 2008 14:07:55 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Really?

Hmm.. I should look this up. Maybe I misremembered. I haven't had to do any tests for operating system versions in a long time, so I might have it wrong.

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