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[#] Mon Sep 12 2016 09:19:57 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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So now you have TWO items to recharge! (phone and earbuds)  Think about how easily it will be to lose those earbuds!  

At the gym I see a lot of corded headphones.  Perhaps I don't notice the BT sets but I see a lot of cables.



[#] Mon Sep 12 2016 09:32:52 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Remember when mobile phones used to keep charge for about a whole week? Before they became smart?

Today, we just charge every evening and keep a power bank in the backpack. <whine>which I can't use while listening with my audio headset now</whine> But don't worry, Belkin is already selling an y adapter for the rescue.

I have to charge my laptop, my tablet, my phone, my watch and rarely the ipods. Also the camera, if I want to take it on a trip. A BT headset is only one battery more to charge, but I have a spare battery in the backpack. And a power bank.



[#] Mon Sep 12 2016 12:17:57 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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There was a couple of reasons to remove the jack... One, it actually takes up a lot of space internally. Two, how else could they get an IP67 rating?

That being said, I prefer having the 3.5mm jack. I got a pair of bluetooth headphones for "free" when I bought my last phone. And as soon as the battery ran out I never used them again. Too much of a pain to keep charged, and I'm lazy when it comes to this sort of thing.

Honestly, we schleped around huge phones years ago. Double the thickness and give me some great battery life. I'd be much happier.

[#] Mon Sep 12 2016 14:46:05 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well that's kind of the point. Someone who already uses Bluetooth headphones might shrug this change off, and might not realize how big an impact this is going to have to the people who still use and like their corded headphones.

Don't get me wrong; I like Bluetooth. I have it in my car. We have a few devices at home. It's a great technology. My objection to the removal of the 3.5mm jack is that it isn't obsolete.

I like Ragnar's idea. Give us a couple of models with big thick batteries in them. Or maybe two batteries with the ability to eject them one at a time while the device is in use. Then they can also add the port consumers really want: a 1/4" headphone jack :)

[#] Mon Sep 12 2016 16:17:15 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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I wouldn't call it obsolete, it just is a relict that lingers on but most people could get around it easily. Especially people with the money to afford every new iDevice. Just remember flash, that was one technology I am glad to be missing, too.

I am happy when car manufacturers lack one sorry excuse to put BT in my car radio. Which will probably add a bunch of security flaws in the car, but I never thought a device with an open CAN bus on its bottom is secure in any way.



[#] Tue Sep 13 2016 15:46:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well, I'll give you that; someone who can spend 700-900 USD on a new iPhone can certainly afford a new set of iEarphones to go with it, and will probably want the whole ensemble anyway.

I think my Honda was built the very last year before they made Bluetooth a standard feature. I had to buy a gizmo to add Bluetooth audio via the aux input. In the 2016 models they not only have Bluetooth but also a screen with Android Auto and Apple iCar (or whatever they call it) which acts as a sort of terminal to supported applications on your phone. That connects with USB. I guess it needs a different adapter for an iPhone.

[#] Tue Sep 13 2016 16:00:43 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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My mother's car has a CD player and this odd hole labeled "cassette tape"



[#] Wed Sep 14 2016 09:52:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The CD slot is a pretty good place to attach your phone holder. :) Seriously, I wish car manufacturers would come up with a standard fitting to attach accessories to the dashboard. It's hard to find a bicycle that doesn't have brazons on the frame these days; cars should be similar.

[#] Wed Sep 14 2016 10:29:09 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I prefer wired headsets to Bluetooth (and possibly generally wireless).

There's a significant lag time between when I tap a button, and when the music changes to reflect what I've done. Scrobbing music becomes essentially impossible over Bluetooth headsets.

You want to find that special place in that tune you're listening to, so you can mark the time for maybe something you're doing.

That said, using a phone for serious audio work is probably a bit nuts anyway... so I'm probably thinking of this as a worrisome trend in general rather than something specific to iPhones.

[#] Wed Sep 14 2016 17:48:19 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Wed Sep 14 2016 10:29:09 AM EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

I prefer wired headsets to Bluetooth (and possibly generally wireless).

There's a significant lag time between when I tap a button, and when the music changes to reflect what I've done. Scrobbing music becomes essentially impossible over Bluetooth headsets.

You want to find that special place in that tune you're listening to, so you can mark the time for maybe something you're doing.

That said, using a phone for serious audio work is probably a bit nuts anyway... so I'm probably thinking of this as a worrisome trend in general rather than something specific to iPhones.

Similarly, audio tends to lag behind video when using bluetooth, as well.



[#] Wed Sep 14 2016 19:25:26 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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I partly agree, but I blame it to sloppy programming. My BT headsets have some kind of touch interface and it is instantly tp the point. Although I only play/pause or skip songs, I rarely skip through a song. I consider searching through a song annyoing on almost everything but a hardware CD player. Some other devices are even laggy when just changing the volume via BT. Not to mention that depending on the audioprofile, sometimes the BT device syncs to the mobile device, sometimes you have to tune two different volumes...

I was able to watch Netflix streams and listen to the audio on the BT headset, I didn't notice any syncing issues.

I have had syncing issues on my wired AV setup and it is all HDMI, there is even a "Lip Sync" function. Not to mention the whole Audyssey magic that makes all my speakers virtually line up with my listening position, so the signal run time is compensated for. There is probably always lag, be it wired or BT, and crappy phone software that wasn't meant as a real time AV system probably needs more love, no matter which mobile os.

OTOH, I know a whole band that uses their mobile devices to tune their stage mixer and they love it. At least via Wi-Fi you get rid of lag: http://www.soundcraft.com/products/ui16



[#] Sun Sep 18 2016 21:59:18 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Got to play with Apple Carplay a bit last week. The ecosystem is too closed....
Give me Waze. Apple's mapping software sucks. It actually led me down a dirt road that came to a dead end, and it told me to park and walk to my destination.
Are they kidding?!?

[#] Mon Sep 19 2016 08:00:30 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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laggy when just changing the volume via BT. Not to mention that
depending on the audioprofile, sometimes the BT device syncs to the
mobile device, sometimes you have to tune two different volumes...

And, even more frustrating, sometimes the BT device syncs to the mobile device for telephone call use but not for media playback.

I have this issue with my LG Tone HB730 headset.

[#] Mon Sep 19 2016 08:59:43 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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http://theheadphonelist.com/wireless-fidelity-making-sense-bluetooth-headphone-technology/#profiles

This is a fine summary of the capabilities or disabilities of BT audio gear.



[#] Mon Sep 19 2016 10:54:51 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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 "It was designed to provide *reasonably good* audio quality over the limited bandwidth of Bluetooth"

(emphases mine)

Bring back the warmth of a good old tube amp. F*ck compression,



[#] Mon Sep 19 2016 16:19:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Give me Waze. Apple's mapping software sucks. It actually led me

Both of them, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, lock the user into their own mapping applications, which is kind of stupid.

[#] Mon Sep 19 2016 18:14:55 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Bring back the warmth of a good old tube amp. F*ck compression,

Umm.... Tubes compress. They don't clip. Fuck clipping.

[#] Sat Sep 24 2016 18:25:59 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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There is a solution to the iPhone headphone problem!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1845589/clueless-iphone-7-owners-tricked-into-drilling-hole-in-their-phones-to-get-a-headphone-jack/

 

I don't have an iPhone, so I tried it, and it worked!



[#] Sun Sep 25 2016 12:09:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yes, that hack totally works. As it turns out, the iPhone 7 actually does have the internal components of the headphone jack; all you have to do is "mod" the case to expose the jack and allow it to be used. So it seems Apple was not so dumb after all; they knew the backlash might be a problem so they cleverly set things up so that if they have to reverse course and add a headphone jack, all they need to do is change the case. Foxconn probably has the design on file already so that if Apple says so, they'll wake up the building full of 11 year old girls who manufacture iPhones for slave labor wages and have them do a run of the new cases very quickly.

Some people are complaining (original video is at [ https://youtu.be/5tqH-Un9SFU ] by the way) that they damaged their iPhones by doing this mod. It's certain that they did it wrong. Perhaps they didn't use the correct size drill bit, or they didn't drill *exactly* where the video showed them to. It's their own fault for not following directions properly.

[#] Mon Oct 03 2016 13:40:09 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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iOS is shit and Android is good. Or, when taking off the reality distortion field glasses: 

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/180357/20161001/bug-bounty-hunters-can-earn-1-5-million-for-a-successful-jailbreak-of-ios-10.htm

http://www.csoonline.com/article/3126474/security/android-malware-that-can-infiltrate-corporate-networks-is-spreading.html

On Google Play, Trend Micro found more than 400 apps that are part of the DressCode family, it said. That's 10 times more than what security researchers at Check Point noticed a month ago.

Now please post something about crappy sources, Hitler and how Jobs is an asshole.



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