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[#] Fri Jan 04 2013 16:24:21 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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I don't think if something like Synergy didn't exist I would even consider attempting this kind of settup, honestly.  Not with multiple computers in relatively constant use.  I would realize that using my mechanical keyboard was more valuable to me then having the always on computer, and my laptop would be replaced on my desk with a second monitor, and I'd just settle with the fact that every time I rebooted I would have to restart my core applications.

I'd also have to deal with pidgin and it's silly decisions like forcing me to use groups, despite the fact that I don't actually want to, but that's another issue entirely.



[#] Sat Jan 05 2013 06:29:12 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I use synergy to remote my wintendo, which runs lync and outlook.

maybe the garmin trainingcenter, and some putties to nets which are not reachable from the network my linux desktop is hooked up to.

Looking forward to a 64bit ubuntu as replacement to the now 7 years old cheapo desktop.



[#] Wed Jan 09 2013 07:35:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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ubuntu? are you feeling ok?

[#] Wed Jan 09 2013 10:15:47 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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Debian is the only distro that I consider sane though, outdated, but sane.  I run Arch currently, can't say I consider that sanity.  Gentoo is one step up on that.  Ubuntu does it's best to create as commercial of a Linux as legally possible, finally, I can have software created for free, yet funding someones overseas bank account, I so happy.  Suse created a special term for me known as the "Suse startup sound" (the KDE critical error sound).  Fedora is RedHat beta.  CentOS is a choice distro, if you're a corperate tool with L I T T L E  M O N E Y.  Mandriva, doesn't exist.  PCLinuxOS is great for anyone who wants a distro that is only developed once every several years.  And let's not even go into Slackware.

 

And there you have my personal distro-map.  Tell me if I'm missing anyone important.  (DSL and Puppy aren't important, LFS isn't a distro, etc)



[#] Wed Jan 09 2013 13:19:15 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Wow, DSL seems to have come back from the dead. I like how you summed them all up. I thought I
was done with Ubuntu but Ubuntu 12.4 with Classic/Fallback is okay.

[#] Wed Jan 09 2013 15:27:33 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Wed Jan 09 2013 07:35:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
ubuntu? are you feeling ok?

better than windows, right? You can install .debs, or compile & install. so, no need to run all the gnome/unity/whatever crap. Its going to have the same UI as my current aging debian: i3wm.org

at least choice exists.



[#] Wed Jan 09 2013 16:38:55 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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I also use i3, great window manager (actually, more accurately, rather meh in some aspects of window management, in that, certain apps don't like it very much, but I like the way it functions). Had to change a few things, change it's keybindings to be proper vim-like, customize the startup script, create my own special desktops, but really that's one half of the point. What amazed me was after 3 months of not using it because NVIDIA decided hourly crashing was a good driver feature, I still actually knew how to use the damn thing.

(Also my plans to encourage the technology holy-war room being used for it's righteous purpose seems to be going well. Let everyone know that having different preferences in toys certifies you to enjoy the fires of hell. Such heinous ignorance must punished for there to be justice in the world.) (Speaking of crapple, I once had a Dell that after inheriting an Apple sticker became the “CrapBook Pro”. It’s favorite OS tended to be windows xp with some odd blackbox like shell replacement keeping it fast.)



[#] Thu Jan 10 2013 00:32:22 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Wed Jan 09 2013 10:15:47 AM EST from fireball @ Uncensored

Debian is the only distro that I consider sane though, outdated, but sane.  I run Arch currently, can't say I consider that sanity.  Gentoo is one step up on that.  Ubuntu does it's best to create as commercial of a Linux as legally possible, finally, I can have software created for free, yet funding someones overseas bank account, I so happy.  Suse created a special term for me known as the "Suse startup sound" (the KDE critical error sound).  Fedora is RedHat beta.  CentOS is a choice distro, if you're a corperate tool with L I T T L E  M O N E Y.  Mandriva, doesn't exist.  PCLinuxOS is great for anyone who wants a distro that is only developed once every several years.  And let's not even go into Slackware.

 

And there you have my personal distro-map.  Tell me if I'm missing anyone important.  (DSL and Puppy aren't important, LFS isn't a distro, etc)



I know that you did not rap on Slackare.  It is a distro based on a dude that picked up the SLS distro (and lived in went without health care to keep the longest living distro alive because he had folks that would keep it going based on what he did)...  He tries for the every 6 month mark (more likelly 1 time a year lately), but read on for keeping current.

I digress. Yes, you were saying about the second coming of Bob (i.e. Patrick from Morehead MN).

Read the changelog over many years of Slackware and I challenge you to find someone who has done so much for Linux as Patrick Volkerding has done.  He has taken on emails from the hordes like me and answered them himself, not some front office or support queue, and he has for years.  It is only recently that the the forums have been the best spot for help, but I would guess that if you needed to email Patrick directly with a specific question, he would answer.

So, Slackware is:

1.  A distro that is current (even bleeding edge if you want - just track Slackware Current )
2.  A distro that has support (even if you need to become a link in debugging the code).
3.  A distro that is use widely in business environments because it has a sane base with long term support (i.e. it can outlive the maintainer).

Let us throw in a few more points:

If you need to do:
Kernel hacking,
Development with bleeding edge libs,
Be trying new things, and keeping systems stable with old things (and security patches that span years). 

And know the history of where the distro came from:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg

And the fact that support for multiple architecture platformsIA-32, x86-64, ARM, S/390.

Plus, Slackware on the ISS (see it in the PDF):

http://www.linux-magazine.com/w3/issue/12/Linux_on_the_International_Space_Station.pdf

So, in short, I give you some slack.

P.S. Debian is my second favorite.



[#] Thu Jan 10 2013 13:38:43 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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(Heh heh heh, excellent.  Strike my ignorance down stories of your personal experiences, and references to grand history.  That'll show me.)  I'm quite aware of the history of slackware, and it's "popularity".  And yet, I still can't really get behind a distro that by default lacks dependency management as a design choice... If you think you have a reason why this is preferable, or you really like their LTS/history/whatever Slack away.  Otherwise, I'll stick to distros that provide me with no less control, and yet still provide me with the most useful aid management software can provide me

Whoops, I forgot to slander debian.  They spend more time on politics then development, to the point of insanity.  Add this to their release cycle, and even when they know something needs changed (like apt becoming slower with every package added), such change will be dragged out for atleast a version or two.  I'm still waiting for the day when their arguing reaches critical mass, and half or more of the developers splinter.  That'll wreck amusing havoc on the like 1/2 of distros that have Debian at the core. 

Really though I'm surprised we haven't all moved on to the one Linux distro to rule them all... FreeBSD.

(I'm just having fun here, by the way.  Pointing out the downsides to things is pretty easy, I wonder why in most OS wars topics people pick downsides that don't even exist.)



[#] Thu Jan 10 2013 16:23:26 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Thu Jan 10 2013 01:38:43 PM EST from fireball @ Uncensored

(Heh heh heh, excellent.  Strike my ignorance down stories of your personal experiences, and references to grand history.  That'll show me.)  I'm quite aware of the history of slackware, and it's "popularity".  And yet, I still can't really get behind a distro that by default lacks dependency management as a design choice... If you think you have a reason why this is preferable, or you really like their LTS/history/whatever Slack away.  Otherwise, I'll stick to distros that provide me with no less control, and yet still provide me with the most useful aid management software can provide me

Whoops, I forgot to slander debian.  They spend more time on politics then development, to the point of insanity.  Add this to their release cycle, and even when they know something needs changed (like apt becoming slower with every package added), such change will be dragged out for atleast a version or two.  I'm still waiting for the day when their arguing reaches critical mass, and half or more of the developers splinter.  That'll wreck amusing havoc on the like 1/2 of distros that have Debian at the core. 

Really though I'm surprised we haven't all moved on to the one Linux distro to rule them all... FreeBSD.

(I'm just having fun here, by the way.  Pointing out the downsides to things is pretty easy, I wonder why in most OS wars topics people pick downsides that don't even exist.)



(Mostly / mainly) joking on my side as well.  You might have heard that BSD is dying though...



[#] Thu Jan 10 2013 18:12:16 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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God I hope so, there's only room for one kernel in this world.  GNU Hurd.  When we finally get Windows on Hurd, software will finally reach it's peak.  Sadly even looking at such a thing will burn through your retna, luckily Hurd is compatable with the archetecture of your soul.



[#] Fri Jan 11 2013 14:36:26 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Whoa, hold on there.  I think you meant Minix, or Lunix.



[#] Sun Jan 13 2013 21:14:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's GNU/Lunix to you, mister.

[#] Mon Jan 14 2013 09:07:44 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Sun Jan 13 2013 09:14:49 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
That's GNU/Lunix to you, mister.

Hmm...how about GNUnix? ;-)



[#] Tue Jan 15 2013 09:09:56 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Sep 14 2012 8:42am from zooer @uncnsrd
The Woz says he hates the Apple/Samsung decision. His current phone? Samsung
Galaxy III.
http://goo.gl/0aYzI

I am sure this guy has every damn phone.


Some commentary:

Industrial design patents (that is, patents on the look and feel of a gadget) are very well established. They aren't going away any time soon.

If somebody made an exact copy of a VW Beetle, they'd be laughed out of any court.

So it goes with phones. I talked to a developer friend yesterday who was adamant that, given the system as it stands, the Apple victory was the only correct outcome. The simple test is this, he says: if you take both devices and hold them in your hand, and somebody knowledgeable can't tell the difference, a design patent is infringed.

Samsung's head lawyer couldn't tell the difference, or so I'm told.

So, 6 months later, the infringing Samsung phones are off the shelves. Samsung is still selling rectangular phones with few buttons beside the touchscreen and rounded corners, which are non-infringing. Not sure where the jury drew the line - obviously they struck some sort of compromise.

[#] Wed Jan 16 2013 17:57:16 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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blabla.

there have been candy bar mobiles from s/e  / Nokia which also look the same, except they have keys.

 



[#] Thu Jan 17 2013 12:02:24 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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"except they have keys" --> then they're not infringing


at least not the design patents.

[#] Sun Jan 27 2013 23:13:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Not to worry. There are plenty of signs that Apple is already on the road to self-destruction without The Steve at the helm.

[#] Mon Jan 28 2013 13:25:20 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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Sun Jan 27 2013 11:13:14 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Not to worry. There are plenty of signs that Apple is already on the road to self-destruction without The Steve at the helm.

That said, if there's anything Apples proven it is that a company can, with the proper changes, be made to do well even after a majority of it's most crazed fans have already predicted it's demise.



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