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[#] Sun Feb 07 2010 02:26:55 EST from Animal @ Uncensored

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heh, yeah, i'm kinda the same way.


Along with their software licensing policy.... i'll take a netboook w/
*nix. But thanks.

[#] Sun Feb 07 2010 03:48:52 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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I was kindof hoping for more functionality on the ipad os side, on the
bright side if the screen has at least 10 touch points I might consider
jail breaking it and seeing what kind of experimental interfaces I can
come up with. I just wish I had enough room (and spare cash) so I could
build a proper multitouch table.

[#] Sun Feb 07 2010 17:46:12 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Heh. Tablets failed when Microsoft tried them, and now Apple has a tablet that's every bit as keyboardless but with the added feature that you can't run whatever software you want on them.

The market *is* a little bit different from what it looked like in the mid 00's, though. The idea of a "cloud access terminal" is more viable than it was then. Still, I think the lack of Flash support is the single biggest drawback to the iPad. If it's time for this category to happen, then I'm looking forward to non-Apple models, perhaps with little slide-out keyboards, and of course the ability to load your own software on them.

[#] Sun Feb 07 2010 18:35:28 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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iPad is just an oversized iPhone, without the phone or full browser support...

more like iPood...

[#] Sun Feb 07 2010 18:50:17 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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The biggest problem with iPad is text entry. I challenge you to tell me a non awkward way to hold that thing and type while standing up.

[#] Sun Feb 07 2010 19:51:33 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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If only there was some way to use hacked input methods it wouldn't be so bad. Dasher would beat the touch screen keyboard in the elast. I'm sure with a bit of thought you could come up with
something decently cool and fast. But until there's a new input method that is a proper speed I'm gonna need a keyboard.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 00:08:57 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Apple ligitimately supports Bluetooth keyboards and a keyboard dock with iPad.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 06:53:32 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 08:14:06 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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Yeah, but when I'm carrying an IPad and a bluetooth keyboard I might as
well just take my macbook pro. Oh, it multitasks too! And when I'm at
home, you best know I'll be using my MBP for real computing and not my
IPAD. Especially seeing the devices inability to chat on msn, look at
RSS feeds, and ssh into something random at the same time.

On a side note, when apple was talking about how a device was magical
when they didn't know how it worked I laughed something fierce. You'd
think that apples top tier would understand the basic premice of
computing/multitouch/whatever now.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 08:16:40 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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since they purchased a while ago


[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 08:21:28 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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I was really hoping they'd make something out of that aquisition other
then distroying a pretty cool company. From what I can tell... nope.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 11:40:47 EST from cellofellow @ Uncensored

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Mon Feb 08 2010 06:53:32 AM EST from fleeb @ Uncensored


My dad had a Newton when I was a kid. Don't remember much about it but it seemed pretty cool.

I read somewhere that the Newton OS morphed into the iPod firmware.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 13:44:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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my mother used the newton, and hated it desperately.

she's working in elderly care, they had to "bill" their checklists with it...

I felt physical pain when I saw her stomping the pen onto the poor thing.

they replaced it by pen & paper plus eyeball copying it into excel, and afair nobody fellt uncompfortable with that solution (while I would feel pain in the but with such a bullshit)

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 16:50:24 EST from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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The Newton was back when Apple make new stuff just cause it was cool - instead of waiting for something to already be on the market, and just make it better (ala iPod). IMHO, the Newton wasn't a great device until the MP2000 - by then it was freaking marvelous. By the 2100 (just a 2000 with more memory - Apple even allowed MP2000 owner to upgrade for free) it was finally making a profit. Then Steve Jobs came back and killed it.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 18:06:36 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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now thats a cool postal address:

6 Infinite Loop
M/S 306-2MS
Cupertino CA 95014
phone: (408) 974-4033
fax:   (408) 862-7577

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 21:12:02 EST from Animal @ Uncensored

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Newtons kicked ass. Handwriting recognition FAR ahead of its time.
Plug it into an Apple printer, print right from there. Fuckin cool.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2010 23:49:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The market just wasn't ready yet. Ubiquitous wireless Internet is really what makes these things sing.

[#] Tue Feb 09 2010 11:13:36 EST from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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Agreed. Nor was the hardware - at least until the MP2000. I bought an original off eBay several years ago and while it wasn't awful, it was clearly a version one product. It's principle failings were that it was slow, it couldn't learn your handwriting like it could in NewtonOS 2.0, and Apple didn't actually let people know that you did have to write halfway neat.

[#] Wed Feb 10 2010 22:36:57 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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apple hq is at 1 infinite loop. but it's a big loop, there's lots of buildings on it.
The building itself if I remember right was that same light blue that the first imacs came in.
Since I was there (and it IS apple HQ after all) I asked if they had a museum or any nostalgia historic kind of stuff there, and they basically asked me to leave.

[#] Thu Feb 11 2010 02:40:00 EST from fireball @ Uncensored

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It's ok, apple doesn't really like people there at all from what I've
been told, they've got some pretty massive clearence systems. I heard a
story once about a guy (who worked on a graphic calculator app) who got
fired from apple and ended up sneaking in and tricking them into letting
him have an office despite him not actually being an employee still
(people still knew him so it made it easy, and most of them didn't know
he was fired) , a fun story of social engineering ;P.

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