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[#] Thu Jan 15 2009 07:54:13 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed Apr 15 2009 22:21:14 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I know this is going to sound backwards, but is it possible to run macoswhatever on a PC in a vm?
The iphone dev kit is all mac, and I have no mac, and I'm not going to buy one just so I can write an iphone application.
Thoughts?

[#] Thu Apr 16 2009 09:05:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yes. There are, in fact, pre-built "Hackintosh" images that you can load directly into VMware.

This is, of course, not allowed by the license and will make Steve Jobs cry.

[#] Thu Apr 16 2009 10:44:06 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Thu Apr 16 2009 09:05:16 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Yes. There are, in fact, pre-built "Hackintosh" images that you can load directly into VMware.

This is, of course, not allowed by the license and will make Steve Jobs cry.

Are they compliant with the openvm(?) standard? I'd love to play with one under VirtualBox.



[#] Fri Apr 17 2009 10:10:05 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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duh, I had forgotten about that.
A friend of mine aske me to help him set up a hackintosh, and I completely forgot.
Thanks.

[#] Fri Apr 17 2009 10:22:04 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Whyfore I use the word duh so much lately?

[#] Sat Apr 18 2009 00:55:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Because it's useful. Next, you can move up to "Epic Duh."

[#] Thu Apr 23 2009 07:55:00 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Okay, so it looks like I'm going to end up buying a mac. sigh.
I found a place called lowendmac which has deals of the day and thins like that.
and I've checked ebay.
Basically I'm looking for a mini with at least 2 gig of memory with 10.5.whatever on it.
Suggestions of some secret corner where I can get a good deal on this?

[#] Thu Apr 23 2009 23:42:08 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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So a friend of mine lent me (yes, he's that interesting in getting me to like macs) his mac mini so I can try it out.
It's so small...

[#] Fri Apr 24 2009 13:33:37 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Yea they're cute. I have a ppc mini sitting around because it needs a new drive and I've been too lazy to deal with it, but I think it is going to become my new living room computer instead of the UMPC.

[#] Fri Apr 24 2009 15:23:59 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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I have a PPC version too. It's a cute little box.

[#] Fri Apr 24 2009 16:17:52 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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My concern is that I get to liking it (might replace my linux box with it, because I just can't jusitfy running 3 machines) I can't bring myself to pay $500 for a real mac. So I might actually throw some small money at hackintosh parts and hope for the best.
I hear now they're dumping the ppc line and going all intel. Is true?

[#] Fri Apr 24 2009 16:40:01 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Yes, PPC is disco'd.

[#] Fri Apr 24 2009 17:47:43 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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PPC has been history for a while now.

[#] Fri Apr 24 2009 18:33:46 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I never followed mac, I have a lot of catching up to do.
I'm learning xcode. It's no eclipse, but it will have to do.
I think the bst thing about the mac is its unix underpinnings, so I know most of it already, it's just the silly directory layout I have to learn.

[#] Sat Apr 25 2009 21:01:51 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Okay question #1, but I think I just found out the answer.
you can ssh to mac box, and run xeyes, but things like the finder don't work.
I gather they don't play X and they have their own display manager of some kind?
I 'd be happy enough if I ever got the whole mac screen (top menu bar and what not) to come up on the machine I'm remoting from.
Is this possible at all, or is mac not X friendly?

[#] Sat Apr 25 2009 21:15:15 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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well, I got vnc to work, I guess that will do.

Must say, it was curiously painless... :-)

[#] Sun Apr 26 2009 11:14:12 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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X is available for the Mac; there's just a regular package installer for it, either from Apple or other people. You can also replace Finder with other GUIs, but I've never tried that.



[#] Sun Apr 26 2009 14:21:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Is this possible at all, or is mac not X friendly?

The native UI on a Mac is NOT X11. It is Apple's own and it is quite proprietary.
You can run X11 apps on it the same way you run X11 apps on a Windows machine: by running an X server that sits on top of the proprietary desktop.

I think your first approach is the sane one if you want to keep the hardware count down. Set up a machine big enough to run VMware well, and make one of the guests a Hackintosh. (I was getting ready to do this recently but had some trouble transferring the disk image over because it was so big. Must try this again soon.)

[#] Tue Apr 28 2009 07:20:43 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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The first thing I tried was the hackintosh in a vm, it's not just a matter of having big enough hardware, it's a matter of having the rigt hardware, which apparently I do not (amd).

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