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[#] Thu Jun 08 2006 20:15:15 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Tell them the backlight also has a little glitch.. get em to replace the screen!

[#] Sat Jun 10 2006 01:24:34 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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That's amazingly cool, Animal !!

[#] Thu Jun 15 2006 16:57:23 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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\\ ************************ //
=====>> ** I GOT MY MAC BACK! ** <<=====
// ************************ \\

Yeah, picked it up around noon today. Typed in my login
password and HOLY SHIT a new keyboard makes a world of a
difference. Everything looked good at the store, signed
the release and went on my merry way. The trackpad and
top enclosure are on backorder, but that repair is about
1 hour in-store, so they're going to call me when that's

Got it home and backed up to an external HD (took about
an hour and a half), shut down and installed my big RAM
stick and airport card, slid in the hardware test CD...
noticed it went in easily and didn't make any clicky-
grindy noises when it spun up. Quite an improvement.
Ran the hardware test and everything passed with flying
colors, so I'm up and running again :-D

Much nicer to use a Mac than a public windows machine.

[#] Thu Jun 15 2006 17:02:02 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Animal - Hooray. Good warranty service is awesome.

[#] Thu Jun 15 2006 17:54:56 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Very good, Animal!

[#] Thu Jun 15 2006 18:55:23 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Grats, Animal!

[#] Thu Jun 15 2006 19:29:52 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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this keyboard *ROCKS*.

seriously, it makes almost no noise compared to my old one.
Now I need ot wear the left-shift key and the left half of the space bar down
smooth, this texture thing is weird.

[#] Sat Jun 17 2006 02:14:46 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Kudos Animal!

Oh, and texture is a good thing. On meeses, keyboards, and everything else for that matter.

Good Job.

[#] Sun Jun 25 2006 09:32:54 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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Extreme backorder? I don't even want to know.

[#] Sun Jun 25 2006 10:23:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Extreme backorder means "We haven't even designed these components yet; they're going to be used in computers we build in 2015 ... but you can extreme-preorder them now!"

[#] Wed Jul 12 2006 00:00:46 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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My mother-in-law Susan has a PoweMac G4 with the translucent handles and a grey body, Model number 5183. It's using an AGP video card, Rage 128, has 384 MB RAM (PC-133 256 MB and PC-133 128 MB) and a 30 GB hard disk drive.

But she has a read-only CD-ROM drive and would like an external USB/Firewire
DVD burner for backup. Right now her only backup is a ZIP-100 USB drive.

Any suggestions where she might get a reliable external FireWire/USB DVD burner for this Mac ??

Also, as far as I can tell, her CPU speed is like 500 MHz at best. How can I determine what her CPU speed is now and are there any CPU upgrades available for this model ?? And if so, where and approx. what cost ??

Also, I have determined that she can upgrade the RAM to two sticks of 512 MB RAM for about $160 US at Crucial, cost higher at Kingston. Can you suggest any other RAM upgrades that offer a good price and a lifetime warranty ??

Lastly, her OS is Mac OS version 9.2.2 and she would like to upgrade it to "X" or 10.xx but she doesn't have the technical expertise to do this herself and I have never upgraded a Mac OS either. There is a local (Seattle area) Apple service store. I'm sure that they would do it for a price, but I was wondering if this is an easy upgrade that I could do for her. Any suggestions ??

Thanks in advance for any info.

[#] Wed Jul 12 2006 02:57:02 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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for backup... I have an old external USB2.0 CDRW... works on USB1.1 as well,
it's just shit slow. I do believe you could go internal on that machine,
probably be quite a bit cheaper than an external drive.

Get that first, and BACK UP the HD(s).

For the OS X install... It's not hard to do. You're gonna want all new
software, running classic environment in OS X on a machine that's already kinda
slow is gonna be unbearably slow. Besides, all the software has been ported to
X, so 9 really is obsolete right now.

I'd suggest wiping the drive (zero them in disk utility) and doing a fresh,
shiny, clean install of OS X, downloading the software and reloading documents.

[#] Wed Jul 12 2006 10:23:31 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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mac question.
As with my new internet connection setup, I have everything working, linux does dhcp to verizon, everybody else on my internal network.
Everything works greeat except the mac.
The mac, when I ping or telnet anything, dns works and the connection works.
When I do it from a browser, sometimes it says "can't connect to server" and sometimes it will get the page and not any images, and then veryl ikely if you click a link it says server not found.
All the other machines are fine, just not the mac.
I tried safari and IE, same thing.
Any ideas?

[#] Wed Jul 12 2006 21:28:26 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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[#] Thu Jul 13 2006 03:54:53 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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Next question - Since NERO only works with Windows, what CD adn DVD burning software do you use on Mac OS 9.xx ??

It HAS to work on Mac OS 9.2.2 since this is the ONLY other way she has to do backups besides ZIP-100 disks.

[#] Thu Jul 13 2006 04:02:58 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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Toast. I probably have a copy that'll run on 9 somewhere.

[#] Thu Jul 13 2006 09:07:15 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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And Nero works under linux also.

[#] Thu Jul 13 2006 19:07:21 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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Thanks, Animal. Much appreciated.

[#] Sat Jul 15 2006 17:08:51 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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Animal - Would it be possible to get a copy of Toast for Mac OS 9.xx on an installable CD-R ?? I would be very grateful and so would Susan.

Also there was a comment that I did not fully understand in regards to upgrading from 9.xx to 10.xx - something like "she would have to upgrade all her applications". Why is this true ?? What's wrong with running 9.xx apps under X or 10.xx ??

Coming from a Windows background (sorry) I do not understand this comment as one can almost always run an older WinApp under the newer version of Windows. So from that perspective I am a little surprised at this comment (quoted above).

And lastly, is there any particular brand/model of CD or DVD burner that works better with the Mac OS than another ?? And would it need to be a SCSI to work with a mini-tower G4 or would it need to be an IDE/ATA-100 ?? I know that at one time Macs were strictly SCSI drive oriented.

And again, Thanks for all the help so far and for the help to come (hopefully).

[#] Sat Jul 15 2006 22:08:11 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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I do have both Toast 5.0 and Toast 4.1.2.

I'm not sure what you mean by an "installable CD-R".... just copy the program
to your HD either by downloading it, copying over floppy, whatever; and launch

OS X is completely different from OS 9. Not just in looks, but it's different
like windows is to Mac. OS X is based on UNIX, OS 9 is not. Therefore, trying
to run an OS 9 app natively on OS X is like trying to run a Mac program on

However, OS X includes Classic support. YOu can install (or copy) an OS9 system
folder into OS X and run Classic applications in the Classic environment. It's
basically an emulator for OS 9, much like Virtual PC lets me run Windows apps on
my Mac. The downside to that is you need both the OS X *AND* OS 9 system
folders on there, and running a Classic app eats twice the RAM and processor as
just downloading a native OS X application that
does the same thing.

So yes, you can just use the same programs. But you don't have the
RAM/processor to run them well. Just get OS X applications, it'll save you all
kinds of headaches.

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