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[#] Sat Jul 02 2005 16:57:48 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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I've never had to actually do it before but is it possible you could insert an OS9 disc (not start up from it) and simply install it to your drive. Then you could use disk utility to reset permissions. I dunno for sure...

[#] Sun Jul 03 2005 21:49:57 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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I've tried it on a couple of occasions. OS 9 needs to be installed first. I would insertthe OS 9 CD and just copy the System Folder to the root of your hard drive. Classic may give you a couple of error messages, but it will run.

[#] Mon Jul 04 2005 11:55:10 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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athos: a G3 with OS X would be fine for what I have in mind.

[#] Mon Jul 04 2005 19:22:15 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Jul 04 2005 23:42:45 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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I couldn't agree more with 2Dog.

[#] Mon Jul 04 2005 23:56:39 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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Found something else: Postfix doesn't automatically start when enabled, like it did in Panther. Some .plist hacking must be done (thanks to macosxhints.com).

[#] Tue Jul 05 2005 16:56:26 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Doesn't Tiger not use cron? Instead it uses... what is it... Hold on, don't tell me... ok, I can't think of it. So I'll use the classic UNIX server command excuse.

"I know it had a `d' in the name!"

[#] Tue Jul 05 2005 17:34:28 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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crond?

[#] Tue Jul 05 2005 19:34:58 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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no. it isn't cron. it's something else that does periodic tasks in Tiger

[#] Tue Jul 05 2005 20:28:07 EDT from Lightspeed @ Uncensored

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You're thinking of launchd.

[#] Tue Jul 05 2005 23:43:09 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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I am! thanks for reminding me.

[#] Tue Jul 05 2005 23:43:52 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Oh yeah, apparantly launchd has trouble some times, and things start to clog up, and you may find after a few weeks that a restart gets you gigs of disk space back. (or so I read in MacAddict)

[#] Wed Jul 06 2005 00:20:20 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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Anacron is a free utility that checks to make sure everything from cron and launchd run - if it's 60 minutes overdue, it forces it.

[#] Wed Aug 03 2005 08:14:12 EDT from harry @ God-Empresses Domain

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Can a G4 upgrade successfully from Mac OS 9.2.2 to 10.xx ?? I am trying to help my mother in law, so major points would help.

[#] Wed Aug 03 2005 11:44:09 EDT from vermilion @ Uncensored

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I'm running the latest version of OSX on my G4 desktop, and it works beautifully. You should have no trouble (unless there are other problems with the machine). Best of luck!

[#] Wed Aug 03 2005 12:21:29 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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Upgrade the video card (the one that came with my G4 wasn't up to the task of OS X's video demands), and probably the RAM. OS X uses much more RAM than OS 9.

[#] Wed Aug 03 2005 16:26:27 EDT from harry @ God-Empresses Domain

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OK. Like how MUCH more RAM should she upgrade to??

For example, I know from experience that MS-Windows XP prefers 512 MB RAM or more to run smoothly whereas it will run
only semi-decent with just 256 MB RAM.

What sizes and flavors of RAM SIMMS or DIMMS or whatever do the RAM upgrades come in for a G4??

An please pardon my mention of the abomination of an OS on an Apple Mac forum.


Also elsewhere, in a different forum, someone told me that to run OS 10.xx, she should have a PCI video card replaced with an AGP video card for OS 10.xx to run properly. Does anyone know whether this is just a performance issue or is actually a hardware requirement?

[#] Fri Aug 05 2005 01:13:55 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Harry:

You should have no problem upgrading from 9.2.2 to OSX on the G4. Your best bet is to do it incrementally. i.e.:
Start with the Jag CDs, simply boot up with them and run the install. All your OS9 stuff will be retained in the OS9 "System Folder"
and in "Applications (OS 9). Now if you're really picky like me you can use Disk Utility on the Jag CD to zero out your hard drive
multiple times... to get rid of all possible residual garbage and porno that you never want seen. If you choose this route it is not
necessary to create a separate partition for OS9, just re-install any OS9 apps that you still want to use into the "Applications (OS 9)
folder and Classic will start up and run them whenever you need them. Either way is okay. If you just want to upgrade on top of your
9.2.2 then the Jag installer will put everything into the right place for you. Once X is installed you want to use Sys Prefs>Software Update
and run that as many times as you need to to get it to 1.2.8 (or whatever the last ver. of Jag is) BEFORE you upgrade to Panther.

As far as memory goes, Of Course - the more the better. This G4 currently runs with this setup.

DIMM0/J21:

Size: 256 MB
Type: SDRAM
Speed: PC100-322S

DIMM1/J22:

Size: 128 MB
Type: SDRAM

DIMM2/J23:

Size: 64 MB
Type: SDRAM
Speed: PC100-322S

DIMM3/J24:

Size: Empty
Type: Empty
Speed: Empty

(I've swapped out one of the cards with the 7600 so I can use it as a gaming machine. I've converted it to a G4 as well)
The only time I ever have any sluggishness is when I'm working with large video files or compiling some 3D crap. Then again,
I always close any apps I'm not currently using.

Cheers, and good luck! :)



[#] Fri Aug 05 2005 01:19:30 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Harry:

Also, forgot to mention, this one has the ATY, Rage128Pro: Type: display Bus: AGP card.
I could be wrong but I think the higher end models are now being shipped with NVidea or something.



[#] Fri Aug 05 2005 12:09:03 EDT from truffle @ Uncensored

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If it has a PCI video card it probably doesn't have an AGP slot, since the G4 AGP was the first G4 to ship with an AGP card and the first with an AGP slot :)

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