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[#] Mon Apr 09 2012 10:27:28 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Amusing video. "I never where it is, it just turns up!"

[#] Mon Apr 09 2012 10:28:13 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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I just loved him looking at Terry Pratchett and going "You bastard!" and how Terry just laughed.

[#] Mon Apr 09 2012 11:57:00 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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wait... what? Now I gotta watch it again...

[#] Mon Apr 09 2012 12:39:56 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Watch the very end.

[#] Mon Apr 30 2012 12:30:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Kudos to Randall Munroe for summing up Ayn Rand in a way that I was never quite able to get into words:

"I had a hard time with Ayn Rand because I found myself enthusiastically agreeing with the first 90% of every sentence, but getting lost at 'therefore, be a huge asshole to everyone.'"

NICE.

[#] Mon Apr 30 2012 13:02:14 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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A quote I like about Atlas Shrugged is from "Some Guy" over at Reason Magazine: "I actually think that Atlas Shrugged and the
Communist Manifesto are the same book with alternate endings. Rand and Marx both seem to think capitalists are soulless monsters who
would do anything to make a buck. She just sees that as a good thing."

http://reason.com/blog/2010/12/11/does-penn-tellers-lend-out-his#comment_2042892

[#] Mon Apr 30 2012 13:12:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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We used to have this discussion here all the time. There were some hardcore randroids and some folks who were really turned off by capitalism, and some folks in between.

Personally I think that "Objectivism" is just plain old greed dressed-up like libertarianism in order to achieve some of its ends.

[#] Fri May 04 2012 08:37:19 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Actually, they are all just looking for love: http://nymag.com/news/features/artifact/51814/

Anyway, I only read "Telemachus sneezed", which is a parody of Rand's book, but what I gathered from 3rd party literature made me laugh a lot about her ideas. 

 



[#] Mon May 07 2012 16:11:30 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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Just finished probaly the most disturbing novel, yet hard to put down book I ever read, "We need to talk about Kevin" by Lionel Shriver. Letters from a mother to her husband about her mass murdering child.

[#] Wed May 09 2012 00:25:04 EDT from boo-boo @ Uncensored

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I'm looking for some good mysteries to read.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

 



[#] Wed May 09 2012 16:21:43 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Hmmm. Mysteries.. What ones have you liked in the past?

[#] Thu May 10 2012 15:30:30 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Our condominium bylaws are a mystery to me, but I suspect that isn't the kind of reading you seek.

[#] Thu May 10 2012 22:15:44 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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fleeb is a mystery to me.

[#] Sat May 12 2012 21:54:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Anything with Scooby-Doo in it.

[#] Mon May 14 2012 00:16:34 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Anyway, I only read "Telemachus sneezed", which is a parody of Rand's

Wait I thought that was just a book-within-a-book.

[#] Mon May 14 2012 00:17:46 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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It has been a long time since I read Illuminatus!, but I have a copy on the shelf. I am thinking that Telemachus was merely /referenced/ from Illuminatus, and one could only guess as to its contents...

[#] Mon May 28 2012 00:55:39 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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O.K. I am just starting out on both.  What should I pick?



[#] Thu May 31 2012 16:02:15 EDT from Ygorl @ Uncensored

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For Aahz and any other Glen Cook fans, there are a couple of fairly recent Black Company short stories which are available in collections. The first is called "Tides Elba" and it was published in a collection called Swords & Dark Magic: The New Sword and Sorcery (this book also features a new Elric story from Michael Moorcock and a new Steven Erikson story, among others).
The second is called "Smelling Danger" and it was published in a collection called Subterranean: Tales of Dark Fantasy 2.

Both stories are set between the 1st and 2nd books, after the battle at Charm, so it's neat seeing the classic characters again. The 1st story is alright, the 2nd is really good (and something of a sequel to the 1st).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057DCOH2/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596063688/

[#] Wed Jun 13 2012 03:24:09 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Mon May 14 2012 00:17:46 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

It has been a long time since I read Illuminatus!, but I have a copy on the shelf. I am thinking that Telemachus was merely /referenced/ from Illuminatus, and one could only guess as to its contents...

I do not remember exactly how man layers of "meta" there were, but basically some character in the book reads "Telemachus sneezed" while on a plane. Either it is like a short story or more like a summary of a book, but it stretches over several pages and had distinct layout. Or maybe I am just fooling around with your brain and it never really existed and was just a mere sidenote?!

Marjorie has this to say: "The novel Telemachus Sneezed by the character Atlanta Hope with its catchphrase "What is John Guilt?" is a spoof of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.[24] Ayn Rand is mentioned by name a few times in Illuminatus!, and her novel is alluded to by Hagbard who says, "If Atlas can Shrug and Telemachus can Sneeze, why can't Satan Repent?" Rand is also disparaged in one of the appendices concerning property, ostensibly written by Hagbard, which serves as an explanation of anarchist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon's views on the subject. "

The content was about a world where "free love" instead of "free market" was the main doctrine, so everyone runs around raping everyone else, iirc.

ax25:  If you were asking LS and me, read all of them. Illuminatus! is probably a bit overhyped and while it is a good book(s), I prefer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_Cat_Trilogy

And here I prefer the shorter version, because it leaves some things secret. For example the enigma about "No Horse, no wife, no mustache!" is not disclosed as it is in the longer versions.

 



[#] Wed Jun 13 2012 11:45:59 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Masks of the Illuminati is fun. Interesting hooha about Aleister Crowley.



You forgot the passage that goes something like:

straight-line guy: "so you're a gang of Objectivists??"
Hagbard: something along the lines of "Objectivists?!? *vomit* have you been paying ANY attention at ALL?"

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