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[#] Thu Sep 03 2015 12:38:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The reason I said Attachmate is because they seem to specialize in keeping obsolete software on life support for the customers who still use it. Their original purpose in life -- access to big host systems from personal computers -- is no longer all that relevant since all computers big and small now speak roughly the same network protocols (and the ones that don't, are so out of date that they fall into Attachmate's new "life support" role).

[#] Thu Sep 03 2015 23:39:12 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Now you've got me curious. Never really heard about these guys except that they vaguely ring a bell from the late 90s. And since my purpose in life lately is host system integration of the airline variety, this could generate some lulz...

[#] Thu Sep 03 2015 23:44:58 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Yep. Lulz provided by wikipedia (of course):

Novell acquisition

Novell announced in November 2010 that it had agreed to be acquired by Attachmate for $2.2 billion.

I guess that a bunch of jerks like that, could only be acquired by a bigger bunch of useless jerks.

[#] Fri Sep 04 2015 10:16:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yup. It was split up, though. The legacy Netware stuff went to Attachmate.
SuSE was spun back off into its own operation, which is what dothebart was talking about earlier. And those two asshats Miguel and Nat went off and created a new Ximian (called Xamarin this time).

So yes, "acquired by Attachmate" is a synonym for "obsolete"

[#] Fri Sep 04 2015 12:49:21 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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What IG says is so here.

Attachmate purchased WinINSTALL, but then spun off another company and sold WinINSTALL off to it.

WinINSTALL is basically dead.

They fired almost the entire staff in the process... keeping only two people.
I quit, so they didn't have an opportunity to fire me, heh.

WinINSTALL had at least a few customers who relied upon it for distributing their software around... enough to make it worth purchasing if they fired the staff and kept a few around for maintenance purposes.

So, yeah, this is where software goes to die.

[#] Sun Sep 06 2015 14:43:38 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Fri Sep 04 2015 10:16:29 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Yup. It was split up, though. The legacy Netware stuff went to Attachmate.
SuSE was spun back off into its own operation, which is what dothebart was talking about earlier. And those two asshats Miguel and Nat went off and created a new Ximian (called Xamarin this time).
 
went off? they outright fired them by discontinuing the see-carpet support. instantly. I guess in Nurnberg there was a party similar to that at HP when Fiorina left.


So yes, "acquired by Attachmate" is a synonym for "obsolete"
 

 



[#] Wed Sep 09 2015 00:59:42 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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What, no Slackware. I want to see a pipe in there somewhere.



[#] Tue Sep 15 2015 07:56:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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For that to happen, at some point in the past there would have had to be a "Slackware Enterprise Edition" with a five-figure price tag and a utility that does file transfers to and from a mainframe.  You need to touch the mainframe in some way.



[#] Tue Sep 15 2015 18:18:54 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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A picture of Ignat's infected toe



[#] Fri Sep 18 2015 00:26:07 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Tue Sep 15 2015 07:56:13 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

For that to happen, at some point in the past there would have had to be a "Slackware Enterprise Edition" with a five-figure price tag and a utility that does file transfers to and from a mainframe.  You need to touch the mainframe in some way.



Pat just lives up the road from here.  I could see if he would "do lunch", and we could probably work something out :-)  Just kidding.  I know from prior email exchanges about inclusion of PAM in Slackware, that he is a bit too practical for all that mess.  Not that he did not say I could not do the work, it was just that I would be on my own and it would not be included in the mainline.



[#] Fri Sep 18 2015 00:30:21 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Tue Sep 15 2015 06:18:54 PM EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

(cut pix of Tux as trashcan)



Now I need to modify our trash cans.  Would that be a tracheotomy of sorts?  And again, it should more properly have a pipe.

http://www.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/shared/slackpenguinlogo.jpg

Now that's better.



[#] Tue Sep 22 2015 10:18:31 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, so HP didn't manage to replace a mainframe from the 60'ies in TEN YEARS?

You probably can write a software emulator for such a system in a little over one year.

maybe they should have better asked attachmate?



[#] Tue Sep 22 2015 10:19:07 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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(and yes, doing it in javascript would probably end up being fast enough on recent hardware...)



[#] Tue Sep 22 2015 17:06:59 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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2015-09-22 10:18 from dothebart @uncnsrd
hm, so HP didn't manage to replace a mainframe from the 60'ies in TEN
YEARS?

Ever tried to just get them to configure VPN connectivity to some of their hosted enterprise services division? That'll put it into perspective ;)

[#] Wed Sep 23 2015 08:45:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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VPN is the same everywhere:

One competent network person with access to both ends can configure it in ten minutes.

Two, one at each end with the encryption settings and addresses documented ahead of time, can do it in fifteen.

After that, the time goes up exponentially.  And the moment someone proposes a conference call to set up a VPN, all hope is lost and it will take millenia.



[#] Wed Sep 23 2015 10:59:23 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, that was very complicated and slow at gemalto too.. but sooner or later you would get it...



[#] Mon Nov 30 2015 11:11:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The new Raspberry Pi "Zero" is here.

It appears that they have reduced it to the absolute bare minimum and set the price at $5 (USD).  512 MB of memory, no ethernet, one USB.  They've reduced the connectors; some are only available via solder pads (like composite video and GPIO) and others are reduced-form-factor connectors (mini-HDMI and micro-USB).

At that price, and that size (65mmx30mm), people are already designing devices in the "throwie" form factor.



[#] Tue Dec 01 2015 07:35:09 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, only some gtk... so loooots of libs ;-) https://code.visualstudio.com/?xd=406643&cr_eac=300322935

7 processes, 60 threads, seems to have acceptable resource consumption..

VSCode-linux-x64$ ldd ./Code
        linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fffb9ffe000)
        libnode.so => /local/home/willi/local/VSCode-linux-x64/./libnode.so (0x00007f01680c5000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f0167e7a000)
        libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f016782c000)
        libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0167576000)
        libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f016734f000)
        libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f0167141000)
        libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 (0x00007f0166e2c000)
        libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f0166bde000)
        libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007f0166932000)
        libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007f01666f5000)
        libnotify.so.4 => /local/home/willi/local/VSCode-linux-x64/./libnotify.so.4 (0x00007f01664ed000)
        libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f01662ca000)
        libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0165f51000)
        libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0165cff000)
        libdbus-1.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00007f0165ab6000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f0165773000)
        libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007f0165569000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f0165356000)
        libgconf-2.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgconf-2.so.4 (0x00007f0165125000)
        libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0164f21000)
        librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007f0164d18000)
        libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0164a09000)
        libnss3.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss3.so (0x00007f01646c1000)
        libnssutil3.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnssutil3.so (0x00007f0164494000)
        libsmime3.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsmime3.so (0x00007f0164267000)
        libplc4.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplc4.so (0x00007f0164062000)
        libnspr4.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnspr4.so (0x00007f0163e22000)
        libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 (0x00007f0163b2a000)
        libcups.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcups.so.2 (0x00007f01638b2000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f01636ad000)
        libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXi.so.6 (0x00007f016349d000)
        libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcursor.so.1 (0x00007f0163292000)
        libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007f016308b000)
        libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007f0162e81000)
        libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007f0162c7e000)
        libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007f0162a7a000)
        libXtst.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXtst.so.6 (0x00007f0162874000)
        libexpat.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007f016264b000)
        libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f016233f000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f016203e000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f0161e28000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0161a7e000)
        /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f01692d7000)
        libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f0161868000)
        libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00007f0161664000)
        libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f0161462000)
        libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x00007f01611b4000)
        libpng12.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 (0x00007f0160f8d000)
        libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0x00007f0160d89000)
        libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x00007f0160b7e000)
        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f016095c000)
        libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0160741000)
        libthai.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthai.so.0 (0x00007f0160537000)
        libselinux.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1 (0x00007f0160312000)
        libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f01600fa000)
        libffi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffi.so.6 (0x00007f015fef2000)
        libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 (0x00007f015fcca000)
        libpcre.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3 (0x00007f015fa5c000)
        libplds4.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libplds4.so (0x00007f015f857000)
        libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x00007f015f60d000)
        libgnutls-deb0.so.28 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28 (0x00007f015f2ee000)
        libavahi-common.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavahi-common.so.3 (0x00007f015f0e0000)
        libavahi-client.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavahi-client.so.3 (0x00007f015eecf000)
        libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0x00007f015ec77000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f015ea73000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f015e86d000)
        libdatrie.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdatrie.so.1 (0x00007f015e665000)
        libkrb5.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5.so.3 (0x00007f015e390000)
        libk5crypto.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libk5crypto.so.3 (0x00007f015e15f000)
        libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcom_err.so.2 (0x00007f015df5b000)
        libkrb5support.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5support.so.0 (0x00007f015dd4e000)
        libkeyutils.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 (0x00007f015db4a000)
        libp11-kit.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libp11-kit.so.0 (0x00007f015d904000)
        libtasn1.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtasn1.so.6 (0x00007f015d6ef000)
        libnettle.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnettle.so.4 (0x00007f015d4bd000)
        libhogweed.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so.2 (0x00007f015d28e000)
        libgmp.so.10 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmp.so.10 (0x00007f015d00a000)
        libgraphite2.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgraphite2.so.3 (0x00007f015cdee000)



[#] Wed Dec 02 2015 11:57:32 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That looks surprisingly native. What languages does it support?

[#] Thu Dec 03 2015 02:30:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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debugging is currently only supported for node and rails.

the C++ i've opened had propper syntax highlighting.



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