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[#] Wed Apr 16 2014 21:50:10 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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[#] Sat May 24 2014 18:56:49 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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2.6GHz Pentium 4 with criminally low 512MB of RAM. This machine came to me from my grandmother, who never really used it after purchase because WinXP apparently displeased her. We're not really sure; she has pretty advanced Alzheimer's and isn't
really into answering questions these days.

Anyway, WinXP was sucking pretty bad on it, but Linux Mint Debian Edition is somewhat more responsive (and much more capable). I will see if I can scare up some more RAM.


I am, incidentally, thoroughly pissed at the computer shop that sold my grandmother an under-memoried machine with an IDE hard drive, but then put in a fairly nice (for the time) motherboard with SATA controller. All of it in a fancy-looking case
(window, LEDs, fan w/LED) for a little old lady to do her family tree software on. I don't know what they spent, but it was way more than they should have.

[#] Sun May 25 2014 17:27:01 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Sorry to hear that about your granny. My mum got similarly ripped off when she bought a computer at some store once. They sold her some freaky micro-atx mainboard with an amd cpu soldered onto the board. Total utter crap. Too few ram and crappy hd, too. I am currently building a new machine to replace the old machine she uses now, which is the computer my step brother gave her. DDR1 ram and AGP gpu. This new one is a c2d, 4gb ddr2 ram and a SSHD sata. Should be enough for her surfing needs.

Pentium 4 machines are only good as heating devices. If you are lucky, the socket can hold some c2d.



[#] Sun May 25 2014 19:00:19 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Pentium 4 machines are only good as heating devices. If you are
lucky, the socket can hold some c2d.


Hmmm... my guess is a pentium 4 will run a reasonable linux distro just fine.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 09:41:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Once you get into the GHz range it's really more about the RAM than the CPU.


[#] Mon May 26 2014 13:20:01 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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"It is more about the RAM than the CPU"... I don't know why that sounds so deep.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 16:43:08 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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I'll ask around and see if anyone has compatible RAM; I'm not sure the machine is worth sinking actual money into. I think I finally got rid of my last DDR2, but I'll dig around.

Worst case, it should play DVDs and maybe handle some amateur radio stuff in my work room; that's where it is now.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 22:19:21 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Thirteen weird and wonderful niche Linux distros... including one that will run on a 386.

http://m.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/13-weird-and-wonderful-niche-linux-distros-1046624

[#] Wed May 28 2014 23:06:31 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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I don't have the real hardware any more, but thought it would be fun to torture myself with this:

http://elks.sourceforge.net/

Think 8086 or 8088.

 



[#] Thu May 29 2014 10:22:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow, is ELKS still an active project?

[#] Fri May 30 2014 11:35:46 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Semi active.  They seem to loose the repo now and then.  Someone makes floppy images every now and then.



[#] Mon Jul 07 2014 07:51:09 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Maddog is digitizing his ye olde VHS-Tapes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLaN8anFyo0&feature=youtu.be

Linus talk at dec.



[#] Mon Jul 07 2014 17:40:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That isn't RMS in the front left, is it? Looks like him from the back (sloppy, fat, long greasy hair) but I can't imagine the real RMS would wear a shirt that says "LINUX" nor would he allow anyone to speak the words "Linux operating system" without blurting out "TEH GNU!!! TEH GNUUUYUUUYUYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!1111"

[#] Mon Jul 07 2014 17:48:04 EDT from roue @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I'm pretty sure that's Maddog Hall.

[#] Wed Jul 16 2014 16:50:13 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hrm.

I would like to use strace to see what happens beyond daemonization, but at least on this machine, it 'finishes' with the first call to clone, despite the daemonized process continuing to run thereafter.

Not as helpful a tool for me as I wish.

While I can still use it to trace system calls on the running process, if I wanted to see wha tit was doing for the few milliseconds it was between pids, I am SOL.

[#] Wed Jul 16 2014 17:53:12 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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-f



[#] Wed Jul 16 2014 19:22:11 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Yep, -f (follow-fork mode) has also been following clone() for a few years now.

[#] Thu Jul 17 2014 08:21:29 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Yeah, that's what the man page indicates, what the google search tells me to do, and what it suggests when you type strace --help, but it won't do it on this machine.

I wonder about the latest Ubuntu. Hm.

[#] Thu Jul 17 2014 08:26:43 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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In any event, I was only looking into this because this machine's upstart doesn't seem to work very well with the service I wrote. My service doesn't look like it's doing anything amazingly different than any other service when it comes to daemonizing, but upstart's 'start' hangs and 'stop' doesn't stop it.

In the end, I expect I'll give up and do the SysV thing, since that works everywhere anyway. I just sorta hoped to do things The Right Way (tm) for various distributions.

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