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[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 01:37:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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oh, and canonical dislikes they would have to port proprietary android drivers for their new devices.

mir will just happily use the native android drivers...



[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 07:35:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I don't really keep up with this but are we considering Xorg == X11 or

is Xorg now dead?

I was referring to X11 in general, rather than any specific implementation of it.

But I do think it's safe to say that Xorg is at this point not only the reference implementation but also pretty much the only one that matters. XFree86 is for all practical purposes dead.

(Yes I used the word "dead" because I am a homicidal maniac.)

[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 07:37:28 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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As for Canonical, they really seem to be doing everything they can to distance themselves from the Linux mainstream. Do they really think *anyone* is going to buy an Ubuntu Phone or an Ubuntu Tablet or an Ubuntu TV? Those markets have been decided; they belong to Google and Apple now. Not even *Microsoft* with all its billions can get a toehold, and Spaceman Mark thinks Ubuntu can?
Dream on.

[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 08:06:09 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I wont rule it out, tech changes, palm was once the big player, then Blackberry and then something new an cool
came along. It could happen.

[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 13:08:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So it seems that the undeservedly big news this week is that the infamous troublemaker Miguel de Idiot has switched to Mac. Good f***ing riddance.
I wonder if Microsoft stopped paying him for being a one-man false flag operation.

We'd be much further along today if it weren't for Miguel de Idiot deliberately creating rifts and trouble inside our world.

[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 13:37:41 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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There are enough fanboys of Ubuntu around...



[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 14:45:33 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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I like Ubuntu because it just works. I don't like unity, and I don't like the spyware they install but it
always seems to work.
Fedora and Debian I had trouble installing the correct display drivers. Granted I didn't spend a lot of time
with it.

[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 15:26:01 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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QED



[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 16:08:02 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Not quite a fan boy, I don't have any Ubuntu merchandise and I can no longer recommend Ubuntu without cringing.

[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 16:57:21 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Just joking. I know lots of people who are sick of windows, won't/can't afford a mac and are not interested in deeper linux knowledge. They are all using ubuntu and most of them use an android phone. I guess they would like a Ubuntu phone too. Especially when it gets an equal integration as apple does with its devices.



[#] Wed Mar 06 2013 22:17:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Great, but let's have less vapor and more action. Spaceman Mark, shut up and show us the product.

[#] Thu Mar 07 2013 00:26:46 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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But I do think it's safe to say that Xorg is at this point not only
the reference implementation but also pretty much the only one that
matters. XFree86 is for all practical purposes dead.

Ah see. I got confused and forgoet X11 != XFree86. Heh

[#] Thu Mar 07 2013 00:34:36 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Ubuntu has always been my least favorite of all distributions. Debian is where I've felt most at home for a package-based system. Gentoo, while allowing insanely more granular control over build options than I think anyone could possibly need, seems to work well as a source-based distribution. I'm all over FreeBSD though, and run it whereever I can. I know my way around it more and I've had fewer problems with it than any other OS.

I have recently gotten into CentOS through the use of Asterisk though, and I've gone as far as setting up a CentOS box at home to familiarize myself with it more.

I still prefer FreeBSD over all others.

[#] Thu Mar 07 2013 04:57:46 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Debian and me never got along well. My first attempts of installing them failed due to unbelievably stupid install media. (A netinstall cd-rom which didn't load any network modules, etc, etc.) Atm, I have the second long running server which I upgraded to Squeeze and now Samba is failing in mysterious ways after it run fine for about 3 month after upgrading. The last one just fubar'd totally, this one only misbheaves indeterministically without proper errors.

I am using CentOS/ClearOS on most of clients systems in order to avoid distupgrading too often. At home I only use Gentoo, because the installations simply won't die. *knocks on wood*



[#] Thu Mar 07 2013 10:43:05 EST from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Gentoo is great if you have current hardware. If you use a Pentium /// as a sandbox rebuilding the world might take a week.


That's another thing I like about FreeBSD (which may be present in other systems too); most people use the source-based ports tree, but a package-based system is also in place and works reliably. Its the best of both worlds.

[#] Thu Mar 07 2013 14:03:21 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Yes and no. There is always ccache (fairly easy and tremendously effective after a while) and distcc (never used it and my attempts with icecream failed). The slowest hardware I ever used gentoo on was my old PentiumV laptop, 256mhz and 64mb of ram. Kind of a pita, but if you have time...

I did use it on i586 and i686 hardware with 500-800mhz, but that was around 2005 where this was not yet the specs of a mobile phone cpu....

Today, I use my server in the basement to compile the packages for my netbook and only install the binpackages.

Afaik, there are public binpackage servers, too. Or you could use Sabayon, which does both: Provide a set of prebuilt packages and still offer the portage features.

I am still too lazy to fool around with any BSD :(



[#] Sun Mar 10 2013 07:19:59 EDT from generica @ Uncensored

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Staying up late imaging a FreeBSD install to a new box to preemptively avoid a dying hard drive's impending crash. Annoyed because every method of dumping over the network causes blocking and makes all my services and access to the box (except for kvm) hang/livelock. Even dump+ssh over lan cable to oter box hangs the hell out of everything during transfer. I need uptime, dammit!

[#] Sun Mar 10 2013 15:02:52 EDT from fireball @ Uncensored

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I preordered an Ouya, if I can't replace Androd (or better yet dual boot) with desktop linux, I'll be moderately annoyed.  Partially because android sucks, partially because their neutered android sucks more, mostly because a 100 dollar tegra 3 rubix cube desktop seems like a good thing TM.  Also, it should be low powered enough to be always on, and powerful enough for all my webserving needs.



[#] Mon Mar 11 2013 07:44:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Interesting ... the Ouya has a Tegra3 chip. That's what my tablet has. Lots of cores. Let us know how it goes!

[#] Mon Mar 11 2013 10:34:10 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I am giving FreeBSD a try as a virtual machine. It is almost like starting over, I get stuck on something
simple and I can't find the correct answer. Although I search for BSD I seem to get a lot of linux results
which don't answer the question.

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