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[#] Wed Sep 05 2012 08:26:28 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I am still pissed Debian doesn't have the latest GIMP and Virtualbox. If a two year old version of Ubuntu has the latest Vitualbox
then Debian should.

[#] Wed Sep 05 2012 09:28:00 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I wouldn't run a debian stable on a desktop.

testing usualy is stable enough (unless the first 2 months after stable is released...)

there are also backports, if you like to install more modern software on the aging stable stuff.

[#] Wed Sep 05 2012 11:38:15 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Tried backports for GIMP, said I had the latest version. I know Ubuntu had PPAs you could add. I think with GIMP there was a
dependency that was needed.

Feh, maybe I should just get away from the Debian style and move on to something else.

[#] Thu Sep 06 2012 12:06:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Didn't you hear? The Linux desktop is dead. Miguel de Icaza said so.

[#] Thu Sep 06 2012 13:07:22 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Yeah, and Gnome3 killed it. I am looking at Fedora but I am not sure. They don't have a release date for Debian 7 yet, and the
"known problems" list doesn't make me happy.

[#] Fri Sep 07 2012 12:34:07 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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cute, with sata connector. and a little more steam then the pi.

[#] Sat Sep 08 2012 15:39:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Nice. I hope there are lots of these, including a few major blockbusters, and that they end up making the Android Desktop inevitable.

[#] Sat Sep 08 2012 20:21:36 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Yes because icons on a desktop sucked under unity but is sooooo cool under Android.

Why don't use install Android x86 on your desktop? They also have a live version. I have it running on my old Dell laptop although I
can not get the broadcom wireless to work.

Hint for the wise if you are going to install Android x86, don't allow it to install grub, it doesn't look for other OS if you do. It
uses GRUB 1.x. Say "no" to install grub and you need to install it manually into your current grub file. (/etc/grub.d/40_custom)

[#] Sat Sep 08 2012 20:23:10 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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feh.... "and you need to install it manually into your current grub file."
should read "and you need to add Androidx86 manually into your current grub file."

[#] Sun Sep 09 2012 04:26:56 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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or... get a linux kernel > 3.4 and try running the android userland next to your traditional linux userland

[#] Sun Sep 09 2012 09:58:27 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I have it in a Virtualbox and a duel boot. The Virtualbox's browser can connect to the Internet, but none of the apps can use the lan, and
I can't sign on. "Wireless unavailable" I don't know why the browswer finds the bridged lan but nothing else will.
The multi-boot stand alone version of Android doesn't connect at all. The laptop uses broadcom chips and many people are saying they can't
get Androidx86 and broadcom to play nice.

[#] Sun Sep 09 2012 11:49:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Android x86 is a neat toy but it's not really usable on a normal desktop, for the same reason Windows 8 and Ubuntu Unity aren't really usable on a desktop.
However, the one feature of Android that makes an adaptation possible is the fact that it has pluggable launchers. A group of developers serious about bringing Android to the desktop could build a desktop friendly launcher.

However, I think the real opportunity would be to build an Android stack that seamlessly merges itself into a conventional operating system. Android apps could appear in the system menu alongside native apps, and share a filesystem and other system resources. Considering that Microsoft is trying to blur the line between its monopoly desktop and its shitty phones and tablets, the rest of the world should do the same.

(Apple could do the same with enabling iOS apps to run on a Mac, but that doesn't sound like the kind of thing they would do.)

[#] Mon Sep 10 2012 03:35:31 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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since whomeveer I pass over my netbook these days (be it with pics displayed, or some browser) starts touching the tft and wipes over it (regardles of the (un)-technical background of that respective person)..

I guess the acceptance factor of Machines without at least some sort of direct screen content manipulation will quickly decline.

So either camera/kinnect like interfaces or touchscreens will shurely take over the pc-world in the next two years or so.

And I guess "we" (yes, me and you nerds) are also going to work with these devices in our spare time more and more.

Maybe some booring workstations remain mouse/keyboard only, but BYOD also brings these touch devices massively into professional environments.

I'd give 5 years here for that change to happen.

No, Microsoft aren't early to that party... and... yes, as in the browser they did pretty much to get it right and win that battle... and yes, their approach is clumsy... but I guess they will have at least some success with it. And... while apple has multitouch input devices available for their notebooks/desktops, its not yet point/touch screens.

[#] Mon Sep 10 2012 20:46:40 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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OK, so what Linux distro should I try next? I really want something with a long term release, Ubuntu had a two year shelf life but not all
the software was updated.
I believe if it works, don't fix it.

[#] Tue Sep 11 2012 02:07:03 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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try oracle unbreakable linux.

[#] Tue Sep 11 2012 01:52:09 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Mon Sep 10 2012 11:07:03 PM PDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

try oracle unbreakable linux.


CentOS, like Oracle Linux, is basically Red Hat Enterprise Linux...go with the 6.x series.

[#] Tue Sep 11 2012 11:55:20 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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I had no idea Oracle was doing a Linux distribution.

What about Solaris? is there indication that they're going to end that?

[#] Tue Sep 11 2012 12:51:27 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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they started doing so before buying sun.

[#] Tue Sep 11 2012 17:05:58 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Slackware -current?


[#] Tue Sep 11 2012 17:20:35 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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We ran Centos on our local servers at the office so I have used it before. I will give it a try.

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