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[#] Wed May 04 2011 15:03:25 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I like how nowadays nobody can dispense a bit of news without saying "I said it first, and it was on my twitter feed and you should follow me."
yeah dickhead there aren't thousands of other douchbags saying the same thing, and for some reason now I have to value everything you say from now on. Yea, right.

The internet is turning the world into a wonderful place.

[#] Wed May 04 2011 15:19:59 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Attachmate, eh?

Heh... I didn't realize they went for Novell.  That's funny.



[#] Wed May 04 2011 18:39:54 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Mi Mai 04 2011 15:03:25 EDT von Ford II @ Uncensored
I like how nowadays nobody can dispense a bit of news without saying "I said it first, and it was on my twitter feed and you should follow me."
yeah dickhead there aren't thousands of other douchbags saying the same thing, and for some reason now I have to value everything you say from now on. Yea, right.

yea, and read the thousands, aeh dozends aeh 5 tweets he posted so far with no real information.



[#] Thu May 05 2011 07:39:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The sale of Novell as a going concern to Attachmate has been known for some time now. The scary part of the deal is that they spun off a big block of patents and sold them to a consortium organized by Microsoft. Expect lots of fun from East Texas in the not too distant future.

That the buyer was Attachmate is interesting; Attachmate tends to focus on support of legacy technologies in non-legacy environments. Netware clearly fits that bill, but Netware as a standalone operating system was on its way out anyway. What I'd really like to see is SuSE spun back off as an independent company to do what it was already doing perfectly well before the acquisition, and I'd like to see Miguel de Icaza unemployed (other than the stipend he gets from Microsoft for creating rifts in the Linux community, of course).

Mono as a project will continue, but without Ximian (aka Novell aka Attachmate) supporting it, development will slow down significantly. Hopefully this will be the end of their completely stupid attempt to put Mono onto Android phones, too.

[#] Thu May 12 2011 13:04:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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This deal keeps getting weirder and weirder.

It seems that due to regulatory concerns, Microsoft has to sell their share of the patents back to Attachmate, but will receive an unlimited license to those patents. Furthermore, the patents will be deployed under GPL/OIN compatible terms, effectively permitting them to be used without restriction in open source software. BIG WIN.

And now they're pretty much breaking off the Linux business and putting it all back into the SuSE office in Germany. Could this be the preparation for a complete spinoff? I hope so -- legacy Novell technology can go quietly into the night under Attachmate's watch, SuSE can once again be a German Linux powerhouse of its own, and what was formerly Ximian can rot in hell where it belongs.

Nat Friedman quit Novell a little over a year ago. I wonder if he knew this was coming. He probably did, because I'm sure that he and Miguel still receive Microsoft paychecks.

[#] Thu May 12 2011 17:05:42 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the suse guys seem to be all quiet happy to have escaped the novel claws.

and for attachmate suse has one primary _BIG_ interesting thing: they know howto run linux on a Z.



[#] Thu May 12 2011 22:46:25 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Does anybody actually do that, other than on a few throwaway, non-mission-critical, smalltime partitions that some intern threw together?

[#] Fri May 13 2011 07:37:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, since formfiller terminals are fading away (even as emulator on windows) the last 15 years, they were replaced by middleware to feed the mainframe which was run on boxes surrounding the mainframe.

these boxes would often run windows, at least it would be dedicated hardware.

these would be webinterfaces, pdf generators, printing adaptors etc.

these boxes are gone now and running inside the mainframe on linux partitions.

so you see, linux operates as gluelogic here, since you can cheaply create software for it.

The minimum requirement for develpoing mainframe software would be a 10k$ PCI Card with a mini mainframe.

The Linuxbox to develop this glue logic on is available for < 0.5k$

I think Attachmate does a lot of these gluelogic and on mainframe stuff, so it makes absolutely sense to own a company which knows howto maintain & operate & extend these partitions and develop software for them.

I don't think redhat or oracle offer Z linux; and for Novel this definitely wasn't core competency too.

This is why there were rumors of IBM buying SuSE before Novel did.



[#] Fri May 13 2011 10:54:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It makes sense, and is in production use, for shops that already have a mainframe.
They're paying for it and it allows them to leverage that investment further by consolidating what they can onto it.

So yeah, it's a perfect fit for Attachmate, because they specialize in integrating different generations of technology together.

I doubt anyone's buying Z mainframes just to run Linux on them. That doesn't make much sense. You buy a mainframe when you need a locomotive of a computer that's going to just keep running. Z/OS is designed for that kind of workload.
Linux, although it may be the very best microcomputer operating system available, simply is not designed for that type of operation. And that's why we still have mainframes.

[#] Sat May 14 2011 09:33:11 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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The mainframe shops I've interfaced with, have run z/OS and, unfortunately, WebSphere MQ. (cue Ford.) Mainframes are still a very big deal at many airlines; the Sabre system originated at IBM.

If you'll pardon the internal IBM ra-ra link,

http://www.ibm.com/ibm100/us/en/icons/sabre/

(Core systems like that are why people run mainframes; the gateways aren't running Linux either, they're often running some Java stack or other that a legion of IBMers hacked together in a weekend...)

[#] Mon May 16 2011 18:10:52 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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unfortunately, WebSphere MQ. (cue Ford.) Mainframes are still a very

What are the chances. I swear totally out of the clear blue a friend of mine sent me an email today:

Have you done any JMS or worked with ActiveMQ or equivalent?


I swear, just today.

[#] Mon May 16 2011 18:11:01 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Wanna see what I wrote him back?

[#] Mon May 16 2011 19:35:45 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I suspect it's imaginative and possibly laden with several invectives of a nasty nature.

So, yeah, I wanna see the response.



[#] Mon May 16 2011 22:20:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Nat Friedman quit Novell a little over a year ago. I wonder if he
knew this was coming. He probably did, because I'm sure that he and
Miguel still receive Microsoft paychecks.

Well, the other shoe has dropped:

http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/May-16.html

Miguel de Idiot has created a startup called "Xamarin" (sounds like Ximian) and his hiring back all of the Mono developers. I'm sure if you "follow the money" through a string of hard-to-track investment companies you will find that Microsoft is (still) footing the bill for this little operation.

[#] Tue May 17 2011 05:34:52 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Yea, a quiet obvious step. I wonder why attachmate didn't let go the ximian brand while there was time to get some money from it... (as he writes they've been planning to get out of novel for over a year now)

I also wonder whether SuSE is going back to KDE as their primary desktop, since nobody liked gnome there anyways...



[#] Tue May 17 2011 15:38:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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With any luck, SuSE will be spun off completely and will have a chance to recover from the past eight years.

Meanwhile, the idea that Xamarin is being funded by Microsoft is becoming more plausible all the time:

$ whois xamarin.com

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ()

Fax:
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O xamarin.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

For those of you who don't know your Pacific Northwest geography -- that's about three blocks away from Microsoft headquarters.

[#] Wed May 18 2011 07:50:26 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Di Mai 17 2011 15:38:32 EDT von IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Betreff: Re:
With any luck, SuSE will be spun off completely and will have a chance to recover from the past eight years.

Meanwhile, the idea that Xamarin is being funded by Microsoft is becoming more plausible all the time:

$ whois xamarin.com

Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ()

Fax:
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O xamarin.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

For those of you who don't know your Pacific Northwest geography -- that's about three blocks away from Microsoft headquarters.

hm, seems to me like a whois agent that hides away your real address from spammers?

I guess locating the companies postal address (its gotta be registered as an inc) will give you the real address.

otoh:

http://twitter.com/#!/schestowitz/statuses/70464798688690176

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.com registered for just one year. So much of a future, eh? (for comparison, I registered schestowitz.com for 10 years in 2004)

'

 

but these are also your opinnion:

http://techrights.org/2011/05/17/angel-funding-for-mono/



[#] Wed May 18 2011 23:20:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yeah, he goes into a bit more detail. Good old Roy.

Hey, does anyone have a good source for *cheap* Linux/Tux stickers? It seems a bit outrageous to pay nearly US$3 for a single sticker; they ought to be under a buck.

[#] Thu May 19 2011 08:46:59 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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reading the 'who bought who' for attachmate over at the register

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/18/attachmate_suse_business/

suggests that attachmate might have similar problems as compaq did...



[#] Mon May 23 2011 17:28:05 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hihi...

Brauckmann explained that SUSE made this move because “Quite frankly we have to adjust our investments to meet sales and customer demand.” And, there simply wasn’t much commercial demand for Mono.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/where-novell-suse-linux-goes-from-here/8951

 

-> nobody used mono anyways.



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