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[#] Wed Mar 17 2010 12:55:18 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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It's been a while since I've used it, but doesn't Exchange's Outlook

Web Access (OWA) let you get to the calendar? Or is it e-mail only?


Calendar and contacts.

[#] Wed Mar 17 2010 13:46:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Evolution can supposedly connect to the groupware features of Exchange.

[#] Wed Mar 17 2010 14:15:04 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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maybe the openmapi stuff has brought something useable to light? though its done in c-carpet.



[#] Wed Mar 17 2010 16:08:15 EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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But I think Evolution requires Outlook Web Access to have that data, if they're using Squirrelmail as a front-end, it won't work.

[#] Wed Mar 17 2010 20:13:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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True.  It accesses Exchange using the DAV service built into Outlook Web Access.



[#] Thu Mar 18 2010 10:19:47 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Yea, Evolution uses WebDAV. It is weird that they don't have OWA paired with Exchange as is usually the case.. it is probably because this division, when they were acquired, was an all-linux shop (except perhaps for some accounting/business things) and is still mainly linux on the desktop. People are now given a choice of linux or windows on their desktop, and the larger company we are a part of is all windows. I was given two machines on my desktop.. rather a laptop with docking station, and a desktop, with a little Belkin KVM switch (which sucks by the way), the desktop is XP and the laptop is linux (ubuntu).
So I didn't have to make a choice. There are some corporate internal apps (HR type stuff.. time sheets, performance reports, benefits etc) that require Windows and in fact require being on a different network, and since I am managing people I rated two machines and didn't have to choose. So I could just run Outlook and get it over with. But I decided that I wanted to keep the laptop (linux) as my primary machine and only switch to windows for the HR stuff. So far I have only had two roadblocks to getting my major stuff on linux, the first being this calendar thing, the second being a Scrum app (yea they do scrum here) which is actually a java app, but JNLP of course is not working on linux, and I am fighting with it. I asked a couple of people and they were like, oh yea, java got uupgraded and it broke everything and I gave up and started using Windows...

[#] Thu Mar 18 2010 12:06:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Interesting. Most people want to go the other way (connect their legacy-hugging Outlook users to a non-Exchange server), for which there are a number of good solutions availab.e

From what I've heard, the reason people have trouble with the DAV solution is that Microsoft doesn't keep that API very stable.

If you've got both machines, can't you just run Outlook on the dozebox and remote over to it?

[#] Thu Mar 18 2010 17:17:55 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea... Evolution is better in connecting exchange than opensource solutions. We all know.

 

Why don't you get a windows terminalserver box into the rack and just access it with RDP?

 

A Non-portable java app, nice ;-)



[#] Thu Mar 18 2010 19:15:07 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Why don't you get a windows terminalserver box into the rack and just
access it with RDP?


Well, "the rack" is someone elses job and I doubt they are going to set up a machine there just for me to get to the calendar. Besides, I have a windows box right on my desk. The point is that my primary box is a linux box and I want to see the calendar there, I am not gonna flip back and forth between boxes all day long just to keep an eye on my calendar.. some things I can flip for, but a calendar that is reminding you what you need to do and when you need to do it is something I want in front of me all the time.

Anyway, it turns out to not be a really big problem for now, because I installed Lightning into Thunderbird and it happily notices the meeting invitations that come from Exchange and asks me if I want to put them on my calendar.
That is good enough for now since I am not scheduling anything myself that other people need to know about, so I don't need to send invitations or put things into the Exchange calendar (yet).

[#] Thu Mar 18 2010 19:52:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That'll work. By the way, are you familiar with seamless RDP? With a tiny extension installed on your dozebox you can bring individual application windows over to your Real Computer using rdesktop. That can prevent even more toggling back and forth between machines.

[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 08:09:29 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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No, how do you do seamless RDP? I will have to look at that...

[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 08:16:14 EDT from skpacman @ Uncensored

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same concept as seamless VM right?



[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 08:20:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's pretty simple. First you get the seamless RDP driver from http://www.cendio.com/seamlessrdp/ and install it on your dozebox, and then if you have a reasonably new version of rdesktop, you can just do something like

rdesktop -A -s "c:\seamlessrdp\seamlessrdpshell.exe notepad"

and it'll pop up in a window on your Real Computer instead of having to deal with the desktop-in-a-desktop nonsense. It's not perfect but it gets the job done most of the time.

[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 09:36:32 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Cool, thanks. I will try it.

[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 12:20:12 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Thanks I tried it really quick and no dice since it could not find rdesktop, I will have to mess with it some more later. Not too familiar with the setup of remote desktop on windows since I have only used it a handful of times.
So, my other question for you guys is.. what terminal application do you use on linux.. default for Ubuntu is Gnome Terminal which seems good enough but I am used to selection for copy and right click for paste, and Gnome Terminal doesn't seem to have that option... Would also be nice (but not necessary) to be able to pop up a list of open tabs and choose one, rather than flipping through them. But that's not really a big thing.

[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 19:31:38 EDT from cellofellow @ Uncensored

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Right click for paste is a PuTTY thing. In Linux, it's middle-click, works in all apps.

I like GNOME-Terminal, it's fully functional and rather fast. Not the fastest, but fast enough. If you want something a bit more interesting, try Terminator, which is basically gnome-terminal (uses the same terminal emulator widget) but with the ability to make lots of splits panes, both horizontal and vertical. Rather useful if you're running a bunch of stuff at once.



[#] Fri Mar 19 2010 23:01:17 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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And you can change the behavior in PuTTY.

[#] Tue Mar 23 2010 20:58:42 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I found gnome terminal annoying and downloaded something else acts a littlre more like putty.
``I'm not at home so I can't tell you what it is, but I'll find out tomorrow,

[#] Tue Mar 23 2010 21:29:41 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Cool, thanks.

[#] Wed Mar 24 2010 18:19:40 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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pterm
Its on synaptic.
It doesn't have the right-click-paste like I was hoping, but as soon as I changed the colors, I can't tell the difference from putty.

all the middle buttons on mice that I have though they work for the paste option aren't as easy to press (or to remember to press) as the right button.

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