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[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 07:16:03 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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ah, and suddenly the windows troll steps by.

my comments to the windows troll would be: It seems as if less knowledge is needed to get a long term working linux system then it is to achieve the same with windows.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 12:08:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I don't care what anyone says; the ONLY advantage Windows has right now is its incumbency.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 12:45:09 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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It's still about applications..... Where's Photoshop? Office? Visio? And don't tell me GIMP and OpenOffice are just as good. They aren't. Where's AutoCAD? There's nothing even close.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 14:53:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Application availability is conferred by Windows' incumbency. We're talking about the quality of the base operating system.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 17:33:09 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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...which including openoffice and gimp fits the needs of > 90% of the users.

as the recent IBM study said, just migrate the easy ones first instead of getting hold up by the remaining 10% who most probably you're never going to satisfy...

[#] Mon Jul 06 2009 19:32:22 EDT from themgt @ Uncensored

Subject: fiddeling around with gentoo ebuilds for citadel and webcit

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Anybody here interested in helping me with testing and improving citadel installation via ebuilds on gentoo?

The ebuilds for libcitadel and citadel-7.51 itself are working on x86 and amd64, the server is up and running. But the --config stage in the ebuild needs some love.  The mta integration needs testing, too.

Feel free to pm me.

[#] Mon Jul 06 2009 19:32:34 EDT from themgt @ Uncensored

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[#] Tue Jul 07 2009 18:22:18 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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themgt, i've set up the gentoo chroot; I guess I'm ready to give it a test drive. where is it? ;-)

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 06:30:13 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 11:52:12 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Very cool. Imagine when they make the granular tools something more puffy than bash.
But still a good simple implementation.
I like that.
Maybe we can kick google's ass with their own toys.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 15:47:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Why do you want to kick Google's ass? There are far more oppressive regimes still extant in the tech world who need to be kicked far more than Google.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 16:24:13 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Like... Red Hat?

No no... Apple.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 16:30:16 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Hey, if I can take anybody down a few notches, you have to admin you'd get far more press for knocking google a little than anybody else.
IT's all about the attention. I get enough attention, I can write a book. Maybe a movie deal.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 16:54:45 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Shit, I really meant Pepsi.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 23:50:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Don't worry about Google or Apple or RedHat or pretty much anyone else. Microsoft is still the elephant in the room. They need to be destroyed first.

(Although most real elephants are capable of writing a better operating system than Vista 7.)

[#] Fri Jul 10 2009 14:56:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That was from the cover of BusinessWeek on March 3, 2003.

Here's the cover:

And here's the article:

The article is called "The Linux Uprising: how a ragtag band of software geeks is threatening Sun and Microsoft - and turning the computer world upside down."

Linux has come a long way in the six years since then. :)

[#] Fri Jul 10 2009 17:00:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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they predicted a growth from 13.7%, but actualy its 12.7%  according to ...

in 2k7

maybe its not as accurate... but... who's got the other > 80%?

[#] Sun Jul 12 2009 08:36:41 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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maybe its not as accurate... but... who's got the other > 80%?

growth isn't 100%

12.7 means 12.7 more than they had before.

[#] Fri Jul 17 2009 10:50:59 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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According to Dell, Ubuntu is a Microsoft operating system:

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