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[#] Mon Jun 08 2009 12:51:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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What exactly constitutes "a C# style language" when C# is really just another C-like language?

[#] Wed Jun 10 2009 16:30:09 EDT from samjam @ Uncensored

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Mon Jun 08 2009 12:51:49 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
What exactly constitutes "a C# style language" when C# is really just another C-like language?

lambdas, closures, generics, classes, and no doubt more.

With all the advantages of compiling to C so you can write C libraries. Even virtual methods (for each class in the hierachy) have a plain public function which then looks up the virtual method behind the scenes.

Sam



[#] Wed Jun 10 2009 16:31:57 EDT from samjam @ Uncensored

Subject: vala

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Wed Jun 10 2009 04:30:09 PM EDT from samjam @ Uncensored Subject: vala

 

Mon Jun 08 2009 12:51:49 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
What exactly constitutes "a C# style language" when C# is really just another C-like language?

lambdas, closures, generics, classes, and no doubt more.

With all the advantages of compiling to C so you can write C libraries. Even virtual methods (for each class in the hierachy) have a plain public function which then looks up the virtual method behind the scenes.

Sam



Ownership tracking, reference counting. If vala was around 20 years ago you would have used it for citadel; but because you can write vapi "definition files" to import C as vala, you (or I) could even migrate to Vala as quickly or slowly as we liked.

(You don't have to use glib or gnome to use vala, but it's better that way)

Sam



[#] Thu Jun 11 2009 08:42:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Here's an interesting article on choosing the appropriate I/O scheduler for a Linux installation.

http://lonesysadmin.net/2008/02/21/elevatornoop/

If your storage system isn't a physical spinning disk, the default scheduler may not be the best one, because it wants to optimize disk accesses for a physical read/write head. There's also "elevator=noop" which makes disk access completely dumb. This may be more appropriate for solid state disks, heavily write cached RAID subsystems, and virtual machines.

[#] Mon Jun 15 2009 15:56:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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And here's some interesting news.

http://tinyurl.com/mqruer

Ubuntu is launching an effort called "One Hundred Paper Cuts" in which they are dedicating development resources to fixing small issues that are merely annoying rather than broken. The aim is to improve the user experience.

They're also accepting input right now to nominate the 100 "paper cut" bugs they will fix before the next release of the operating system this fall.

[#] Sat Jun 20 2009 16:39:35 EDT from PanaSonic @ Uncensored

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I'll bite - "hire a UI designer" - that will solve a couple million problems for them....

[#] Mon Jun 29 2009 17:39:41 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Fri Jul 03 2009 14:49:48 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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http://helpmerick.com/senior-uses-ubuntu-system-14-months-trouble-free.htm

As the URL says... a 70+ year old woman didn't call her younger friend for technical support until 14 months passed... and even then, the problems she had did not involve the operating system.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 07:16:03 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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ah, and suddenly the windows troll steps by.

my comments to the windows troll would be: It seems as if less knowledge is needed to get a long term working linux system then it is to achieve the same with windows.



[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 12:08:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I don't care what anyone says; the ONLY advantage Windows has right now is its incumbency.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 12:45:09 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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It's still about applications..... Where's Photoshop? Office? Visio? And don't tell me GIMP and OpenOffice are just as good. They aren't. Where's AutoCAD? There's nothing even close.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 14:53:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Application availability is conferred by Windows' incumbency. We're talking about the quality of the base operating system.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2009 17:33:09 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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...which including openoffice and gimp fits the needs of > 90% of the users.

as the recent IBM study said, just migrate the easy ones first instead of getting hold up by the remaining 10% who most probably you're never going to satisfy...



[#] Mon Jul 06 2009 19:32:22 EDT from themgt @ Uncensored

Subject: fiddeling around with gentoo ebuilds for citadel and webcit

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Hi!

Anybody here interested in helping me with testing and improving citadel installation via ebuilds on gentoo?

The ebuilds for libcitadel and citadel-7.51 itself are working on x86 and amd64, the server is up and running. But the --config stage in the ebuild needs some love.  The mta integration needs testing, too.

Feel free to pm me.



[#] Mon Jul 06 2009 19:32:34 EDT from themgt @ Uncensored

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[#] Tue Jul 07 2009 18:22:18 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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themgt, i've set up the gentoo chroot; I guess I'm ready to give it a test drive. where is it? ;-)



[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 06:30:13 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 11:52:12 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Very cool. Imagine when they make the granular tools something more puffy than bash.
But still a good simple implementation.
I like that.
Maybe we can kick google's ass with their own toys.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 15:47:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Why do you want to kick Google's ass? There are far more oppressive regimes still extant in the tech world who need to be kicked far more than Google.

[#] Wed Jul 08 2009 16:24:13 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Like... Red Hat?

No no... Apple.

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