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[#] Sun Nov 16 2008 18:27:01 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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Sun Nov 16 2008 07:49:35 EST from girthta@uncnsrd

Hrm, OK. Which of these options allows you to "bookmark" radio stations you especially like? Do they all keep a "Library" of music and "playlists" like in iTunes? Because that will really come into play when we start getting serious about our music library (as in, getting a storage box and transferring all our music from CDs to the storage box). Which we (as in *I*) will eventually be doing. Then we (as in *I*) will put CDs into cold storage and live with a nice, clean, uncluttered music library.

Isn't this what you're doing now, fleeb? It's worked well for you, yes?

Amarok and Rhythmbox both do this. In fact they do so many things..I don't even use 90% of it.  I mostly just want them to play my music library and be done with it.



[#] Sun Nov 16 2008 20:49:14 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Sun Nov 16 2008 07:49:35 EST from girthta@uncnsrd

Hrm, OK. Which of these options allows you to "bookmark" radio stations you especially like? Do they all keep a "Library" of music and "playlists" like in iTunes? Because that will really come into play when we start getting serious about our music library (as in, getting a storage box and transferring all our music from CDs to the storage box). Which we (as in *I*) will eventually be doing. Then we (as in *I*) will put CDs into cold storage and live with a nice, clean, uncluttered music library.

Isn't this what you're doing now, fleeb? It's worked well for you, yes?

I rip my music to ogg vorbis (the better-than-MP3 audio compression format) files.  The files are then uploaded to my dedicated Linux server running the aforementioned software (SqueezeCenter), and I tell the software to refresh the audio library (or wait until the next day, by which time it will do it automatically).  Within SqueezeCenter, you can sort through your music in a variety of ways... like genre, artists, albums, and year released.  The ID tag is important for making sure these work properly.  The player you can use with SqueezeCenter is Java, so it will work on your Linux platform as well as your Windows platform without issue.  Hell, it probably also works on Mac.

You can create playlists very easily in SqueezeCenter, although I haven't made many.  I think you can also save your preferred radio stations as 'favorites', although I haven't played with this as much.

I am sure there are some fine tools for ripping CDs to ogg vorbis or MP3 filesin Linux.  SqueezeCenter, however, doesn't come with that.

If you're feeling a little plucky, you can probably update the firmware in your iPod to use RockBox, which will continue to use ogg vorbis audio files for you (and it works well with Linux, I am sure).  I've been using RockBox on my iPod for a while now.

http://www.rockbox.org/ for more details on that.



[#] Sun Nov 16 2008 20:58:44 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Let me describe this a little better...

SqueezeCenter is a server for your music.  It provides a web-page front-end for you to control it.  It has a shitload of features.

But, it's just a server.  It doesn't necessarily play the music over your speakers.  For that, you use a player (that comes with SqueezeCenter) that you should be able to install from the browser.  I know this works well in Windows, but I haven't actually seen the player in action over Linux.  Still, I should expect it wouldn't be too difficult to work with.

There's also some hardware that directly connects to the aforementioned server (if you point the hardware to the server).  I have one of these things sitting on top of my stereo (you've even seen it, although you might not remember it).  The hardware comes with a remote.

Because of the design, you can actually synchronize the music across all the players, so that everyone is playing the same music at exactly the same time.  I've tested this and saw that it works.  Kind of weird to have my stereo and computer playing the same music at exactly the same time.  This would work very nicely in a two-story home, as it would let you have a player upstairs and downstairs play at exactly the same time, so you won't have a break in the music you're enjoying as you wander around your home.  It isn't as useful in my condominium, for obvious reasons.

SqueezeCenter lets you set up your playlists, saving them, restoring them, editing them, and so on.  It lets you synchronize your players.  It even lets you direct what plays in the various players connected to it, and it does so nearly instantly.  But it doesn't actually play the music through your speakers.  That comes from the player application, which is also included.



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 06:46:34 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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OK, so today after I get rid of the family I will be hacking away at this old box. I have Ubuntu downloaded and onto a CD.

This old computer has 512MB of RAM. Fleeb, I emailed you but I guess you haven't seen it. I can order 1GB of RAM for about $40, 512MB for $30. For $10 more it seems silly not to go for the Gig. From what I read it doesn't seem I have to wait on the extra RAM to go ahead and get Linux on this box, though. It may run faster, etc. with the extra memory and multitasking will be nicer, but not necessary, right?



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 07:46:34 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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exact. It will start swapping if you run to many browser windows ;-)

in the commandline the top programm will show you who's the memory pig ;-)



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 07:46:36 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 10:02:56 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Mon Nov 17 2008 06:46:34 EST from girthta@uncnsrd

OK, so today after I get rid of the family I will be hacking away at this old box. I have Ubuntu downloaded and onto a CD.

This old computer has 512MB of RAM. Fleeb, I emailed you but I guess you haven't seen it. I can order 1GB of RAM for about $40, 512MB for $30. For $10 more it seems silly not to go for the Gig. From what I read it doesn't seem I have to wait on the extra RAM to go ahead and get Linux on this box, though. It may run faster, etc. with the extra memory and multitasking will be nicer, but not necessary, right?

Just answered that e-mail, but yes, that is not over the top at all.  If anything, you should endeavor to get as much RAM as you can stand to buy.  It'll really help that system to stop groaning.  So, if you have 2 gigs of RAM in the system, it'll definately help.

As dothebart has pointed out, it will help keep the system from bogging down.  Linux, like Windows, can be configured to swap unused RAM to the hard-drive.  If a lot of this swapping goes on, it can reduce performance significantly, as the system will spend more time swapping RAM-to-HD than doing the work you want.  The swapping tends to happen when you have multiple programs running at the same time, and the system jumps from one program to another as part of its pre-emptive multi-tasking nature (pre-emptive multitasking being the comp-sci way of making it look like your computer is doing more things at a time than it really is, by shifting between the multiple tasks really really fast).

If you want me to glaze your eyes over this, we can try another video chat tonight... if I can figure out how to record it, I can probably make a YouTube video or something.

Hmmm... Fleeb's Basic Computing Tips... I'd feel silly, but if I really do have a talent for making this stuff non-boring (HA!) then maybe I should look into that.



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 10:11:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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use a talking tux doll with ieky voice ;-)

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 10:11:39 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 12:17:51 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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OK, ubuntu is loaded. That was a SERIOUSLY simple install. I have never seen anything go so smoothly. No shit. I'm amazed.

Anyway, my first roadblock is finding a driver for my wireless USB adapter so I can get this box online. I'm seeing some stuff on the 'net but I don't really know what I'm seeing. This site: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/otus looks rather promising but I don't totally understand what they're saying or if it will really help at all.

 

The USB adapter is a Netgear, wireless-N Dual Band USB Adapter WNDA3100.

Help?



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:03:39 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hmm, it's not clear from a quick Google search whether there's a native Linux driver for that adapter, or if it requires ndiswrapper. Does anyone know?

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:04:20 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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OK, I found this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690699

but it might as well be written in a foreign friggin' language b/c I don't understand wtf they're talking about- not in a practical way. but it seems like the post would answer my question if I knew how to read it.

 

help?



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:05:22 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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Note the post from viper- it references this ndiswrapper of which you speak, IG.

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:08:30 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Based on what I'm reading there, if you can find a driver for Ubuntu with the name 'Atheros AR9170', it should work for your device.

I'm not sure where you can find a driver for this, but one of the authors seems to think that such a device exists.

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:08:46 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Er, that such a driver exists for that device.

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:09:27 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You might try this:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:45:14 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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"The module is on linux-backports-modules-intrepid and it's called ath5k. You just need to install the package, either using Synaptic or apt-get, and make sure that is activated on System/Administration/Hardware Drivers."

OK, I think I understand this... just have to read up on HOW to do that...



[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 15:46:19 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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So, um, do I go to the command line and type
sudo apt-get install ath5k


[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 16:01:38 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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couldn't find package.

[#] Mon Nov 17 2008 16:11:32 EST from girthta @ Uncensored

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fleeb- please call me when you get off work. I'm getting frustrated and you know how dangerous that can be.

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