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[#] Sat Jan 05 2013 16:03:56 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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you can set it using either environment or commandline parameters, in your init script, whatever you prefer.

its

CITADEL_LOGDEBUG

or

-x

and then, coma separated the list

as

sendcommand LOGP

gives you.

you should however see the active sessions on your side using

sendcommand RWHO



[#] Sat Jan 05 2013 17:05:09 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Ok, I have both of these in my init script, and maybe they're conflicting:

CITADEL_LOGDEBUG=networktalkingto,networkqueue,networkclient

and

CITADEL_DIR/citserver -d -h$CITADEL_DIR -x4 -llocal6

I do have:

CITADEL_DIR/citserver -d -h$CITADEL_DIR -x6 -llocal6

commented out at the moment.



[#] Sun Jan 06 2013 12:00:57 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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-x once took a loglevel...

it now accepts the very same list as the environment variable.

note that you need to export it.

 



[#] Mon Jan 07 2013 11:09:48 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Sun Jan 06 2013 12:00:57 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

-x once took a loglevel...

it now accepts the very same list as the environment variable.

note that you need to export it.

D'oh! Didn't think to "export" since the CITADEL_DIR variable wasn't, though it seemed to be pulled in.

So, if I have "networktalkingto,networkqueue,networkclient,4 set for CITADEL_LOGDEBUG or -x, will it still use log level 4 in addition to the 3 network monitoring settings? Just wondering.



[#] Wed Jan 09 2013 09:43:44 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Mon Jan 07 2013 11:09:48 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

 

Sun Jan 06 2013 12:00:57 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

-x once took a loglevel...

it now accepts the very same list as the environment variable.

note that you need to export it.

D'oh! Didn't think to "export" since the CITADEL_DIR variable wasn't, though it seemed to be pulled in.

So, if I have "networktalkingto,networkqueue,networkclient,4 set for CITADEL_LOGDEBUG or -x, will it still use log level 4 in addition to the 3 network monitoring settings? Just wondering.



no, loglevel configuration isn't supported anymore.

however, you can still choose which logverbosity you want in your syslog config.

the new facility ommits all debug-logging by default, you can re-enable this on a per application base with the above mechanism.

else citserver would produce a lot of load on syslog, which syslog then needs to discard according to his loglevel, so not sending it if its unwanted saves resources...



[#] Thu Jan 10 2013 09:53:48 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Wed Jan 09 2013 09:43:44 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

 

Mon Jan 07 2013 11:09:48 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

 

Sun Jan 06 2013 12:00:57 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

-x once took a loglevel...

it now accepts the very same list as the environment variable.

note that you need to export it.

D'oh! Didn't think to "export" since the CITADEL_DIR variable wasn't, though it seemed to be pulled in.

So, if I have "networktalkingto,networkqueue,networkclient,4 set for CITADEL_LOGDEBUG or -x, will it still use log level 4 in addition to the 3 network monitoring settings? Just wondering.



no, loglevel configuration isn't supported anymore.

however, you can still choose which logverbosity you want in your syslog config.

the new facility ommits all debug-logging by default, you can re-enable this on a per application base with the above mechanism.

else citserver would produce a lot of load on syslog, which syslog then needs to discard according to his loglevel, so not sending it if its unwanted saves resources...



Someone ought to update the documentation, then. The Citadel Administration Manual still shows:

The next step is to arrange for the server to start. The “citserver” program is the main Citadel server. Before we cover the recommended method of starting the server, let's examine its usage options:

citserver [-hHomeDir] [-xDebugLevel] [-tTraceFile] [-lLogFacility] [-d] [-f]

And

”-xDebugLevel” - Set the verbosity of trace messages printed. When -x is used, it will suppress messages sent to syslog (see below). In other words, syslog will never see certain messages if -x is used. Normally you should configure logging through syslog, but -x may still be useful in some circumstances. The available debugging levels are:

  • 0 - Emergency condition; Citadel will exit immediately
  • 1 - Severe errors; Citadel may be unable to continue without attention
  • 2 - Critical errors; Citadel will continue with degraded functionality
  • 3 - Error conditions; Citadel will recover and continue normally
  • 4 - Warning messages; Citadel will continue normally
  • 5 - Normal operational messages
  • 6 - Informational messages, progress reports, etc.
  • 7 - Debugging messages; extremely verbose

under the "Configuring your host system to start the service" section of:

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:system_administration_manual#citadel.admininistration.manual

This may lead to some confusion (it certainly did for me), otherwise.



[#] Sun Dec 16 2012 23:13:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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i see messages

[#] Thu Feb 14 2013 03:03:21 EST from generica @ Uncensored

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Can I net my old C86net capable system with this network?

[#] Thu Feb 14 2013 10:33:06 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow ... we used to do quite a lot of that, but at this point the gateway code has fallen into disrepair and probably wouldn't work anymore. However, welcome back to the Citadel community.

[#] Fri Feb 15 2013 20:29:22 EST from generica @ Uncensored

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Thanksya. I'm just playing around with some fun ideas. I have a bunch of server resources and quite enjoy dosbox experiments. Hah. So, I'm currently finding out how reliable it is to actually have a few C86es on one of my servers net with eachother in a sort of fake multinode setup, so a user could telnet in and get a random node of several, and they are all single instances of C86 in dosboxen, which then do anytime netting with eachother using dosbox's virtual modems. Very fun, so far... in order to get C86 to dial another telnet system you have to use octal IP addresses as the system ID because it filters non-digit characters from dialstrings. So that's fun. And that's only the beginning...

Anyway, sucks to hear the gateway code is in disrepair. Lots of things are sill in disrepair with the system I'm putting together too so we share something in common at the moment ;-).
If you ever feel like messing around with it, it would be fun to have another system to net with. I also mailed Hue, Jr on his dosbox'ed C-86 Test System.
It was fun to see that system still online!

Anyway, no guarantees, just haxing around and only one node is accessible at the moment, but this may or may not work if you're bored: telnet://bbs.friendbear.com



[#] Thu Mar 14 2013 15:09:29 EDT from Freakdog @ Cascade Lodge Citade

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IG (or whoever is managing the citadel.org DNS:

Please add cascade.citadel.org as a CNAME pointing to bbs.netk2ne.net.

Thanks.

[#] Fri Mar 15 2013 11:47:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'll go ahead and do this one since it's an old friend, but please be advised that our practice of offering citadel.org domain names for other sites has been discontinued.

[#] Sun Mar 17 2013 11:49:21 EDT from DemonStalker @ Dog Pound BBS II

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IG - and for that special service, I thank you !!!

--Vince

[#] Sun Mar 17 2013 11:53:02 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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I see that 'cascade.citadel.org' has been added to DNS. THANK YOU for that!!!

--Vince


[#] Sun Mar 17 2013 22:29:21 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I'll go ahead and do this one since it's an old friend, but please be

advised that our practice of offering citadel.org domain names for
other sites has been discontinued.

Sorry about that...I wasn't aware that was the case.

Thanks.

[#] Mon Mar 18 2013 13:25:27 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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Dumb(?) question time:

How long is it supposed to take citadels to recognize each other over the network?

I'm unable to send mail from Uncensored to Cascade or vice versa. I'm greeted with "Invalid recipient" on both nodes.

[#] Mon Mar 18 2013 13:46:18 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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good question - i've read they need to share the GAB? Though I didn't find anything doing this automatic - maybe you need to pair them manualy? i guess IG should know more.



[#] Tue Mar 19 2013 07:42:25 EDT from Freakdog @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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That might make some sense...I'll try that.

[#] Tue Mar 19 2013 07:43:11 EDT from Freakdog @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Yup...that was likely it.

[#] Tue Mar 19 2013 08:57:18 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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so now you can send messages back & forth, and they don't go via smtp?



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