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[#] Thu Jun 19 2003 15:21:46 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Right, so why would running LINUX in their shop be detrimental to them? That's what I'm confused about ...

[#] Thu Jun 19 2003 15:22:34 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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IBM Brings Nonprofits into Wi-Fi Age
[June 18, 2003] In one of its largest Wi-Fi jobs yet, Big Blue installs wireless systems at 600 Boys & Girls Clubs across the United States.

[#] Thu Jun 19 2003 15:24:20 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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NS: No, using MS crap is a problem for them. Linux would be good. :)

[#] Thu Jun 19 2003 16:19:38 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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T: But didn't you say that you couldn't use Linux in their environment b/c it would be a problem for them, just as M$ is a problem for everyone, even if they don't know it? I'm gettin' real confwuzzled here now ... yer just messin' w/ my mind, aren't you? :-O!

[#] Thu Jun 19 2003 17:01:12 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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Not intentionally. :)

I will re-state: Linux is a problem for them because they've got their heads stuck way up MS' ass. At least, they think it's a problem, when if fact their real problem is their reliance on MS.

[#] Thu Jun 19 2003 21:21:43 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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ah, okies...

[#] Fri Jun 20 2003 16:24:29 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Jun 19 2003 12:34pm from Mr.T @uncnsrd
I mean that using Microsoft products costs them a lot of time in
unnecessary maintanance and lost productivity. Like a lot of people,
they either don't know or don't care that computing doesn't have to be

as frustrating, inefficient, and unstable as it is in Microsoft Land.

Yeah, you can run websphere on linux.

[#] Mon Jun 23 2003 23:31:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I have a ThinkPad 600E laptop with a weird problem. Sometimes it seems to get into a state where it constantly thinks the "Fn" key is being pressed.
When this happens, I can't type (I can, however, turn the volume up and down, and switch between LCD and external video, and do all of those other special functions that the Fn key is there for). If I reboot, it won't start because of the "stuck key."

There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the key itself. Does anyone know what else I can look at, or if there are replacement parts available?

[#] Mon Jun 23 2003 23:34:45 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Iggy, there's a BIOS setting to have the "Fn" key "stick" ... maybe this was activated somehow? Also might try a BIOS upgrade.

Otherwise, might be that something spilled into the keyboard and/or it short-circuited?

Is the 600E still under warranty? Maybe IBM can fix it even if it's not ... I know that they support all products even not under warranty, just charge through the roof to do so. :-(

[#] Mon Jun 23 2003 23:39:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'm afraid this is a malfunction, not a setting. I've owned this computer for over two years (and it was at least a year old when I acquired it) and it's only started doing that recently.

What I'd really like to find out is, if this is an electronic problem and not a mechanical one, is the responsible chip somewhere in the keyboard FRU or elsewhere in the machine?

[#] Mon Jun 23 2003 23:40:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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(I should add that when it's docked, the problem does not manifest itself on the external keyboard.)

[#] Mon Jun 23 2003 23:50:17 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Iggy, check the BIOS setting, anyway? Could be that the battery in the BIOS is beginning to fail and that the settings aren't holding or that they're becoming corrupt. Otherwise, I'd imagine that the problem is electronic, unless you see the chip manually depressed or something. As for electronic fixing, sounds more like a short-circuit somewhere, so maybe quasi-electronic.

[#] Tue Jun 24 2003 15:49:54 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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ig, there might be a magic button or combination of buttons to reset the keyboard control. also, is it possible that it's a mechanical problem? (sounds quite possible as external keyboards don't produce the same behavior)

anyway, you might be able to replace to keyboard. i don't know how much ibm would charge, but when i dumped 2 cups of coffee into my dell laptop :) it was only $20 for a replacement part that was the keyboard *and* the controlling circuit stuff.

[#] Tue Jun 24 2003 18:30:09 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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there's a 2 micron short somewhere in your keyboard. if anythign probably7 the only thing you could do is replace the whole keyboard.
there's no way you'd be able to fix a chip or anything like that, nest pas?

[#] Tue Jun 24 2003 20:18:01 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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true enough

[#] Tue Jun 24 2003 22:31:39 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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IG, does the external keyboard have a "Fn" key on it? I've never seen one of those. IF so, where'd you get it? I might wanna pick, one up for my TP.

[#] Wed Jun 25 2003 08:42:16 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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IBM Sale on ThinkPad out-of-service Warranties: 4&catalogId=-840&storeId=1&langId=-1&ca=sbcservicepac&me=W&met=inli&re=SBCNews Ann5

[#] Wed Jun 25 2003 11:11:46 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Anyone know why the battery level on my TP 570 suddenly goes from like 60% down to about 4% or so? It's getting pretty friggin annoying, and it happens with both the original and two new batteries. Time to call IBM for a repair under warranty?

Also, half the time, the TP won't recognize the second battery when it's installed in the ultrabay. *sigh*

[#] Wed Jun 25 2003 22:18:10 EDT from twhite @ Haven BBS

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... different battery technoligies offer different operational parameters, and not knowing yours, it's hard to say.

however, as the original, and the replacement, both exhibit the same behaviour, it may be that is the way it's 'supposed' to be ...

[#] Wed Jun 25 2003 22:42:07 EDT from twhite @ Haven BBS

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.... for them what care:

IBM has come up with non-volitile, through the 'power cycle', memory.
it uses 'magnets' to store information, is low power, and , as memory serves, fast.

imagine. instant boots. and resumption at 'power on'.

two recent developments, that i think important. fabrication advances naturally lead to a 'faster' and 'smaller' devices. say 1/50th the size, and significantly faster.

PREDICTION: the os' of today will disappear ...

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