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[#] Tue Jun 04 2002 11:26:35 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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I didn't know you were even programming anymore. Do you have one of the Suns set up?

[#] Tue Jun 04 2002 12:08:03 EDT from felix @ Uncensored

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Keen! Now, does it do DB2, or is there anything similar that does.

[#] Tue Jun 04 2002 15:16:30 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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No, doing occasional contract work for Cintra.

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 09:19:03 EDT from gwynn @ The Big U

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Fuck! I installed IE 6, this on 98 SE. Now, whenever I go to a page with frames, it does the frame names and such, but there's nothing inside the fucking frames! no text, no links, nothing! I even just did a full install to see if I accidently left something out when I customized, and it's still doing the same fucking thing! How the fuck do I fix this?
It makes me want to take my also fucked up video card, snap it in half, heat it, and cram the hot jagged shards up Bill Gates' ass. Unless I go to Canada and to that to Ati's tech support, tough dcision.

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 10:11:19 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Easy decision.. the firt option, for sure. And take pictures please.

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 10:41:07 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm... unsure if I'd want to see Gate's ass, aflame or not.

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 13:08:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Time to switch to Netscape, gwynn.

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 17:06:57 EDT from gwynn @ The Big U

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I WOULD switch, but nothing works with my screen reader quite like IE, because the reader people are MS's bitches. Besides, at this point it's pissing me the fuck off, and I want it fixed. Things like this bother me because they're so damn stupid.

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 22:05:14 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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gwynn: Reader? Are you blind?

[#] Fri Jun 07 2002 23:23:14 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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gwynn: You might want to try uninstalling IE 6 and then reinstalling it from the full download package.

You can uninstall IE 6 by going to the Control Panel, then Add/Remove Programs.
It'll be listed as Microsoft Internet Explorer 6. When you try to remove it, it'll ask if you want to repair it, restore the previous version, and one other option that escapes me. Choose the option to restore your previous version.

Hopefully that'll help.
IE Binder

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 03:19:44 EDT from gwynn @ The Big U

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Mr.:

Yes, I am indeed blind.

SB:

Yeah, I can try that I guess. The other thing MS recommended, finally, with the windows update problem, si reinstalling windows. That might happen too.
Fuck.

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 15:09:31 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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gwynn: Any chance of getting a different reader? Or is that just too much of a pain in the ass?

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 16:17:08 EDT from IO ERROR @ The Big U

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Any chance of getting a different OS?

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 20:51:35 EDT from setho @ Uncensored

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I had a client way back when (1987) who had a son who was blind. He had a braile reader attached to a 286 PC. The reader was over $25k at the time.
It was wild watching the output of the screen coming up in braile....

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 21:43:02 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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Holy crap cakes. Is that the kind of setup you have, gwynn, or is your voice-based? An old friend of my mother's is blind and he's a programmer... he had a braile keyboard and voice synthesis reader software and voice recognition.

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 21:43:16 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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Of course, he could work faster than I can...

[#] Sat Jun 08 2002 21:02:10 EDT from gwynn @ The Big U

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Reader:

No. They are all waaaay expensive. The current one has base of 800 or such and upgrades of like 100-200 for every two. Most of the others I can think of are around the same, 500+ as a base.

Different OS:

No. If I could, I would. But I can't.

IE:

Uninstalled 6. Tried a frames page. Still did the blank thing. Did an install of 6. Tried again. Still did the blank thing. Fuck me. I have this feeling that a reinstall of windows is coming.

[#] Sun Jun 09 2002 10:05:01 EDT from Mr.T @ Uncensored

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Zoinks. That sucks, gwynn.

[#] Sun Jun 09 2002 16:48:37 EDT from Curly Surmudgeon @ Haven BBS

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I have access to a robotic signing hand developed at Stanford. The designer would be delighted to share the design is anyone wants to duplicate it. Direct ascii to American Sign Language.

But then, due to censorship on "Uncensored," important information will again be lost. Hypocrite.

[#] Sun Jun 09 2002 16:00:25 EDT from gwynn @ The Big U

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IE:

It's the fucking reader! The pages come up fine, the reader just isn't reading them! Probably because the scripts it uses are jsut for version 5 of IE, which would probably also explain why it started for 5.5 SP2.

Re: Setup

I'm using JFW, JAWS For Windows, with an Accent SA speech synthesizer hooked to com1. I can touch type, so I don't use voice recognition, just output.

In case anybody has a burning desire to play around, www.freedomscientific.com is the JFW site. I forget if you have to pay for the demo, you might. If not though, it'll work with a standard soundcard, it comes with a software synth. My synth sounds pretty different, but if the demo's free, then you too can have the joy of screwing around with a screen reader. Try blindfolding yourself!

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